Cornering, help required

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Carl, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. Carl

    Carl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    2,609
    Likes Received:
    815
    I would like to learn the right way to corner at speed, body position, knees, head and elbows etc. do you drop your shoulder if so by how much.

    Other than the very expensive race schools where do I get the help I want, books DVD etc.
     
  2. Muffking

    Muffking God Like

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2012
    Messages:
    5,811
    Likes Received:
    2,818
    Keep following Simon, he was giving the roads some close attention when we left Grantham the other week :-D

    Best video i ever watched was Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist 2. It's probably still available as a Torrent, but i also found a basic Police Bike Safe course quite useful a few years back as they start by teaching road positioning.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Givover

    Givover God Like

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,009
    Likes Received:
    3,754
    I know one bad habit I have is not using all the road and say on a left hander keeping to close to the kerb .i know its bad but sort of keep ending up in there .Doh !
     
  4. Si.

    Si. God Like

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,852
    Likes Received:
    3,343
    I have twist of the wrist 2 on DVD here. Pm me if you want it... Explains countersteering ( we all do it anyway, we just don't know it) etc...

    i use all available road to cover myself uncase I go wide etc... Smooth is key.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. Black

    Black Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    142
    I would second the vote for the twist of the wrist series. Never watched the DVD but read the books some years back and he breaks cornering down and gives you drills to do to make sure you build up slowly and take it step by step.
     
  6. Garyb

    Garyb Moderator.
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2011
    Messages:
    4,962
    Likes Received:
    3,587
    IMO Theory will never ever be a substitute for practice.
    Whilst we can all read hints and tips from the pro's, body position, road craft etc, It's all about riding withing your limits and pushing your own boundaries. I will add, I probably learned more going out on group ride outs from here than I ever would from reading a book.
    Practice, practice, practice Carl :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. Black

    Black Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    142
    Si is right, smooth is the key! Concentrate on that and the rest will come naturally.
     
  8. dave d

    dave d Elite Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2011
    Messages:
    3,800
    Likes Received:
    1,479
    • Like Like x 2
  9. lambeth longshanks

    lambeth longshanks Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2012
    Messages:
    1,816
    Likes Received:
    713
    RoSPA? IAM? They have some quick people despite the staid image. And value for money.

    Mike Waite Advanced Motorcyclist DVD is good.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Muffking

    Muffking God Like

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2012
    Messages:
    5,811
    Likes Received:
    2,818
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Givover

    Givover God Like

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,009
    Likes Received:
    3,754
    Them most obvious of course is to do all your changing down and braking prior to hitting the corner and then keep some revs on this keeps the bike upright and also gives you some speed to exit .
     
  12. Carl

    Carl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    2,609
    Likes Received:
    815
    Thanks guys that's a great start, and thanks for the kind offer Si but I have gone straight on to Amazon and purchased twist of the grip 2 £6.50 saves you the hassle of posting it etc
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Carl

    Carl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    2,609
    Likes Received:
    815
    You can't see anything Simon does Gary, with that bloody great number plate dragging up dust as he goes;)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. exfire

    exfire Elite Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2011
    Messages:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    1,017
    Good find, looking forward to watching it.
     
  15. ChrisOzzz

    ChrisOzzz Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2012
    Messages:
    276
    Likes Received:
    121
    I think as some other have mentioned being smooth is key, on the road or track. I know they are expensive but I did the Ron Haslam race school last week and being on track really allows you to think about body position and the long corners let you really get familiar with the right body position, without having to think about that van/car that's going to pull out on you while you have the bike cranked right over. I know to the seasoned track day boys it might be a bit lame but I really felt like I learnt allot. I had the bike over to far, once I got off it a bit more, and stood it up I could carry more corner speed and get the power on earlier..
    Ozz
     
  16. phantom

    phantom Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2012
    Messages:
    4,905
    Likes Received:
    1,470
    loads of practice and always look for the vanishing point.
    I read loads of book/watched dvd's ect a couple of years ago and to be honest
    they didnt make be any smoother or faster than I already was.think its because
    from the age of 17 I was clocking up to 30k a year on bikes and when I 17 I was
    a tad nuts so I liked to test the limits of my tyres lol
     
  17. SimonRR

    SimonRR God Like

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2012
    Messages:
    4,208
    Likes Received:
    2,058
    :eek::p
    blame the misses, she says she prefers look of my big one :D
    she says paying a £60 fine to have it shortened by 1.5" is craziness :D

    we going on a track day on 14th May, why not join us, track is best way to improve your corning skills, and my number plate comes off for that lol
     
    #17 SimonRR, Apr 29, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2013
  18. Swiss T

    Swiss T Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2012
    Messages:
    680
    Likes Received:
    346
    If you like DVD's, I think Simon Crafars Motovudu is very good.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Garyb

    Garyb Moderator.
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2011
    Messages:
    4,962
    Likes Received:
    3,587
    I can recomend Debbie does Dallas too ;)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Black

    Black Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    142
    Thanks for that link to the twist of the wrist video. My ability has increased immeasurably due to my now wearing RayBan Aviators and talking in a low gravelly voice! I am a biking god.
     

Share This Page