Here we go again. None bike related.

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  1. Garyb

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    Yes, here we go again.
    Stopping smoking, you either do or you don't.
    After Managing 110 days, I really thought I'd cracked it this time, but as many a smoker will say, it's a hard habit to break?

    So after trying :-

    Will power
    Acupuncture
    Hypnotherapy
    NRT
    Champix
    I have this morning received the new weapon of choice, the electronic cigarette :cool:

    Out the box and charged, it's now in use.
    First impressions.
    Easy to use, tastes kind of ok.
    After consuming some Merlot and my evening meal, so far I feel quite content getting my hit of nicotine this artificial route how it goes? Time will tell.

    We can start this as day one, and I shall update as to my progress
     
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  2. Si.

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    I've been on the leccy ciggie for 5 weeks now. I have a normal smoke in the morning ( dunno why, but I have it with a coffee at work) and they are brilliant. I've saved a shitload of cash (20 a day of marlborough lights) and feel better already. As I suffer from anxiety, smoking was a release, and a bad habit, and I woke up one day and bought the leccy ciggie.
    As I said, it's been 5 weeks, and it's replaced my normal cigarettes... Good luck to you Gazza.

    Which one you go for mate?
     
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  3. kpone

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    So, while you're using it Si, do you still crave a real cigarette?
     
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    Well after 25 years of smoking I've been off the smokes since November the 8th 2011. Many previous failed attempts using NRT but found I became addicted to the gum especially.

    I had heard of people giving up after reading Allen Car's Easy Way to Stop Smoking and had rubbished it as how on earth could reading a book make you quit smoking. Well after quite a nasty chest infection that once had cleared up after a few weeks and yet I continued to smoke I didn't fancy a trip down that road again, nor do I think my health could cope either. My breathing and lungs have been left affected and will always remain so now (habitual weed smoking for many years didn't help either).

    So out of desperation I brought Allen Car's book, started reading it on a Friday finished it on a Sunday and stopped smoking the following Monday and it's been easy. Give it a try you never know it worked for me and the wife.

    It basically makes you think why you smoke, reinforces the fact that you don't need to and makes it clear that your not quitting anything your a non smoker with everything to gain.

    Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking: Amazon.co.uk: Allen Carr: Books
     
  5. Garyb

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    I went for the smoke relief Si. Full kit two batteries with charging case, plus 10 tips included.
    All for a princely sum of £29.74 delivered.
    Seriously strange at first, but actually a cant belive it's not butter moment



    http://www.smokerelief.co.uk/smoke-relief-electronic-cigarettes
     
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  6. Si.

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    Nope, not at all.
    I've also tried Alan carrs book, stopped for 6 mths.... But started again. MrB, how many fags did you smoke, and fr how long??? Do you feel better??
     
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    Best of luck to you both, it is hard i know, but don't give up giving up, it takes time to break the evil weed but it is worth the battle in the end, i'm now 6rys off 'em and have never looked back. ( 20 fags a day for 4 years will pay for a new blade almost )
     
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    So do you think that apart from the nicotine then it's the actual feel of the cigarette and the action of smoking that your body's craving?
     
  9. Tom68

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    First time I packed up it lasted 8 or so years, after a little help from acupuncture, Then started smoking again after a very stressful few months, I then thought fook it and went cold turkey and been off them now for 4 or 5 years and I really don't think I will ever start again.
     
  10. Si.

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    Ken, I've always said its not an addiction, it's a habit. Addictions, in my mind, change your personality and that your not in control. . Drink and drugs do that, smoking doesn't, so it's a habit. But, bad habits are hard to break.
     
  11. Garyb

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    IMO, it's the habit that's hard to break, with the patches, apart from the burning they cause to the skin "I have delicate skin" :p the nicotine is trickling into your system through a 24hr period. No where near the strength as you would get from inhalation of cigarettes,This is unnatural, after all I don't smoke when I'm asleep
    This electronic job, gives around the same as a normal cigarette, in each tip there is the equivelant to a packet of 20 and i get my nicotine hit when i want and need it without trying to sound as though I live in cuntishtown it's hard to explain to someone who has never smoked, but on the plus side, if I can't explain why I smoke to someone with ease, why would I smoke in the first place?
     
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    The craving in people is a thing that's always interested me. I know I have an addictive personality and am such a creature of habit that I've often wondered whether I suffer a very mild case of OCD, but only in certain things. If I break my normal routine of doing certain things at certain times, I don't suffer from anxiety but it makes me careless and I might forget to pick things up or lose my keys or some other likely crap, but have never smoked or had any other habit that I would really, really struggle to stop, and so I find the struggle of those I consider intelligent, intellectual people to give them up fascinating but hopefully not in a macabre way. It just interests me to see just how hard it is to shake the habit.
     
  13. Freedom of choice

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    Good luck Gary. Really mean that fella.

    IMO the giving it up is the easy part, the staying off it later on is the hard part. I gave up when my ex wife pronounced she was pregnant with our first son. It was easier than I thought it would be. Then over ten years later I had a cigar after a drunken industry black tie dinner. No problem didn’t smoke again for a few weeks then when out at the pub one night and thought a Hamlet with this pint might be nice, no problem, didn’t smoke again for weeks if not months. Then and here's the problem...when my wife and I separated and I was away on business I couldn’t get a cigar so asked the bar man to get me a packet of ciggy's. That was it. Back on them again. Worst time is working in my home office on the computer or when you are drinking. I can chuff my way through a whole packet of 24 Gauloises Blondes if the two things happen are on the same day. Did I feel any different when I had given up, cant honestly say I did but I am sure my manic blood pressure was lower.
     
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    Ive managed to quit twice... first time for only a matter of weeks, but after my first child was born I quit for 6 months... then STUPIDLY started again.

    Will be looking to quit again... might try the electronic ciggy route as it worked for a mate. Other mates have succeeded with champix, although one reacted really badly to them and was violent and angry all the time!!!


    And for those that say its just a psychological addiction...... complete tosh! Having dealt with narcotic addiction in my youth, I can tell the difference between physical and psychological (aka "habitual") addiction... cigarettes have both, but for different people the ratio of psychological to physical addiction varies.
    For example, mine is largely physical... I dont have any smoking "habits" as such, my problem is largely the physical/chemical addiction.
    My mate however uses cigarrettes as "rewards" for "milestones" throughout the day..... arrive at work = fag... arrive at clients = fag... get home = fag... finish a task = fag... he HAS to have a fag when he starts each pint of beer..... which is why his many efforts on patches havent worked.
     
  15. MrB

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    Quite a heavy smoker at least 20 a day of the handmade variety, Smoked for 25 years, started on the green stuff and that was daily for 20 years at least all bar the odd dry spell.

    Feel so much better and can't ever see my self smoking again. Started to put weight on and reached 85kg's so to combat that and the breathing I've been regularly using an exercise bike 4 - 5 times a week for 30 mins, now up to 13 miles, something I could never have done whilst still smoking. Weight now down to 77kg's but still going to keep up with the exercise to work on the cardio and breathing.
     
  16. Freedom of choice

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    I get what you are rattling on about Ken. Ok I struggle to remember all my times tables sometimes but consider myself reasonably intelligent. so why do I smoke when I know it is a proven fact that it will at worst kill me or at best shorten my life expectancy.
     
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    i have used most of the things above apart from the electric ciggie and failed on all of them i got up one morning and just decided i wanted to stop, hardest thing i have done but still not smoking after four years, it doesn't matter what you use as long as you REALLY want to stop my weight went up by 3 stone aswell which is now nearly off again
     
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    Reading back what I wrote now it comes over wrong. Sorry, I'm trying to get pissed before Strictly comes on. I don't mean to imply that there's something wrong with people who can't give up, I wouldn't do that. I think what I mean is that I'm lucky to know some pretty switched on geezers and no matter how hard they try to explain to me why they do it, they can't. And I am genuinely interested in knowing and only ask them because I believe they're more than articulate enough to give their reasons in a way I can grasp. As a 'never have' non smoker, it gets under my skin a bit that I can't know the answer and put it in a box and put it away......more OCD there I think.
     
  19. MrB

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    Why did I smoke.

    I started because it was cool and dangerous an image and all your mates were doing it, to impress the girls, all of those pathetic reasons. I was 14.

    Why did I continue to smoke.

    As I believed I enjoyed it, I thought it relieved boredom and stress. It was something to do and I was addicted. If I went without for too long I craved one and felt empty. I was aware of the health aspects but until something happened or I was diagnosed with some illness due to the smoking I was happy to continue or so I thought, really I was addicted.

    Why did I stop.

    I fell ill with a chest infection not necessarily caused by smoking but definitely contributed to it. Would easily get out of breath doing mundane tasks let alone anything physical, had to stop. The fear of not dying but contacting something like emphysema scared me, was smoking worth it of course not.
     
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  20. callumw

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    A photographer friend of mine got a lekkie cigarette and was immediately converted.

    He did find it weird to smoke a bit then put his "lit" cigarette in his trouser pocket :D
     

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