Ebay track bike seller rant!!

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  1. Garyb

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    What are the chances eh?

    picture the scene, a few of you know, i'm wanting to go forwards and do a track day. so this past week, iv'e been following this
    SUZUKI GSXR 600 K4 K5 RACE TRACK BIKE 2004 2005 RIZZLA REPLICA | eBay

    Yep, i know its only a 600, and your probably wondering why i would drop down 400cc, well its simple enough, as again a few of you know, i ain't the quickest around and a 600cc IMO would be just fine for me to throw around instead of potentially ruining a perfect 1000rr should that nasty off ever arise.

    so as i said, been following it, discussed it with Mrsb yep put a bid on it.
    so its been sat at £1550 for a few days, i'm exercising my patience by not bidding early,
    sat waiting for the item to end it's still sat at £1550 and iv'e now got my proposed top bid of £1750 loaded into the old Ebay and await the clock.
    Well what are the chances? The clock gets to 20 seconds remaining, trigger happy Gaz goes for the bid. and yep you guessed it, the ebay item you are bidding has ended!
    WTF.

    so that is that then, Gill says, does that mean you won it?
    no darling, it means the seller has removed it from sale at the last possible moment because basically it ain't made enough!

    And here was little old me thinking it was an 'auction'

    Sorry, But shame on you seller, put a reserve on it rather than ending it!

    Rant over!
     
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  2. martinowen

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    Shame it looks good
     
  3. megawatt

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    Contact him and make an offer ?
     
  4. r1monkey

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    i thought a seller could not remove an item that has received a bid.
    i would check the rules.
     
  5. Garyb

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    I know where your coming from Megs, but surely if something is for auction it should remain so? I must be old school? but it seems ebay is used as a cheap version of autotrader these days! it just grips my shit that its not used as it was 1st intended, all to save a few quid eh.

    so out of principle i won't be making an offer, theres plenty out there for the taking, perhaps its my own fault for being so naive ;)



    just seen your post R1monkey, according to the reason it had been sold, although nothing in the description as advertised else where? unless i missed it?
    win some lose some i guess? as said, only a track bike, and plenty more in the sea. I think Gill's more gutted than me :D
     
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  6. Jollygiant

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    Plenty of those tossers on eBay. Is annoying but there's plenty out there.
     
  7. BoroRich

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    Never trust anyone from Stockton-on-Tees, Gary. I could've told you that c_anxious.gif

    Know what you mean though. Ebay hacks me off something rotten. It used to be an auction site. You put stuff on there and rolled the dice. Sometimes bargains were had and lost but now most people just use it as a pikey flea market to shift their unwanted sh*t....and wanting top dollar for it too.

    I've got a couple of items listed on there at the moment and I started them at a tenner each. They'll sell for what they sell for. Old school eBay style.
     
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  8. Garyb

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    Cheers mate. I feel much better now. :)
    Lol my poor old dad just got a barrel too, he phoned and asked if I'd managed to win it.
    Roll on moan two. :eek:
    I understand it's the world we live in, but just once I'd like to meet someone as like minded as myself, and by the sounds of it yourself too.
    Always winners and losers in proper auctions but the dice you mention, they seem to want it loaded.
     
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  9. Muffking

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    As an ebay veteran i can tell you that he cant close the auction with under 12 hours remaining. He can however, end the auction early, which means selling to the highest bidder.

    So unless the highest bidder is buying the bike for £1550 then HE IS the highest bidder, an illegal practice known as Shill Bidding, which can be reported to ebay.
     
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    As I was waiting my time out to place my bid, does this even put me with a valid complaint? I hadn't placed a bid in the whole duration of the auction so technically I had other than just watching the item no interest in buying the bike.

    To add, I have loads of times never bided on anything until the last minute with no problems. I'm guessing as I said in an earlier post, the bike was not making the kind of money the seller was expecting, hence cancelling it and giving the reason as sold before auction end.
    All be it only 20 bloody seconds to go, which does raise suspicions?

    And again, there will be others I'm sure, probably I'll learn a lesson and get myself involved earlier, seeing the bike in the flesh etc.
     
  11. thefirebloke

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    Just looking on Ebay Gary and it's been re-listed on a classified ad at £2300.
     
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  12. Garyb

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    Cheers Steve, I suspected as much that would happen.
    I really don't know track bikes values, perhaps it may be worth that post I was talking about ;)
     
  13. Muffking

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    Id still report it to ebay via the original auction link "Report to Ebay". It wont change your situation, but If the seller has relisted the bike so soon after the auction was won then this shows that the winning ebay account is owned by the seller and was used to prevent the sale. Ebay frown on this as it evades the fee to add a reserve price.

    Perhaps also ask him if he can explain why the bike has been relisted at a higher price than the auction was won for so soon after he had ended the auction early. If he replys with the old chestnut of how the winning bidder has backed out, then remind him that there was at least 1 genuine bidder waiting to push the price up and he has now lost out.
     
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    Notice how that one has a reserve price :-D
     
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    keep it on your watched list and see if it comes up as a relisted item, if so how can he have sold it?
     
  18. wedgiewolves#223

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    We sell on eBay and if a item has less than 12 hours to go with a bid you can't change title description or end item ?
     
  19. dave d

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    on a different theme gaz is it common practice to buy bikes to come up with no log books how can you know whats a legit bike think cas craig did a thread on what to look for,
     
  20. gringo

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    Ithink you carnt end it that late in the auction think it 12 hours before the end
     

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