HID Headlight conversion.

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  1. Muffking

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    Are HID's different to Xenon's used in cars?
     
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    Yeah, good point mate.
     
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    Dunno mate but you're earlier post about altering bulbs has got me thinking maybe it's possible to alter an H4 ( a twin filament bulb i.e. head/dip) to fit. Then, to avoid overloading the bikes wireing, fit a couple of relays, one for the head and one for the dip. It all depends on being able to adapt a bulb to suit. But if it's possible, a double dip, double head arangment should be do-able.
     
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    Xenon vs. HID

    High Intensity Discharge, or HID lamps, are a type of light fixture that offer several advantages compared to the traditional incandescent, or fluorescent lamps. There are many light fixtures that are considered as HID, depending on the construction and the materials that are used for the bulb, and Xenon is just one of them. Xenon bulbs are aptly named, as they contain the noble gas, Xenon, inside the bulb. This gas lights up when high voltage is applied.

    HID lights are more efficient in producing light compared to traditional fluorescent or incandescent bulbs, meaning that they produce a brighter light at a given power rating. They are also more consistent when it comes to temperature fluctuations, making them better suited for outdoor applications.

    Xenon lamps are considered to be a special type of HID due to a few factors. Unlike most HID lamps that do not reach full brightness until they are hot enough, Xenon lamps do not need to warm-up, and provide instant bright light. Xenon lamps simulate daylight better, and the light is more natural compared to other HID lamps.

    Although there are advantages to Xenon lamps, there are also disadvantages. The first is the need for extremely high voltages in order to start and operate a Xenon bulb. Voltages across the terminals can be as high as 30 thousand volts to start the arc across the electrodes of the bulb. Other HID bulbs do require higher voltages compared to other traditional light bulbs, but it is not as high as that of Xenon lamps. Xenon lamps are also among the top bulbs when it comes to pressure inside the bulb. With pressures that exceed 100 atmospheres at times, these bulbs can be an explosion hazard, and can cause damage when its enclosure fails.

    Summary:



    1. HID is a type of light fixture that creates brighter light, and lasts longer, while Xenon is a subtype of HID that contains Xenon gas instead of the other alternatives.

    2. Xenon lamps do not need to warm-up like other HID lights.

    3. Xenon lamps create a warmer light that simulates daylight better than other HID lamps.

    4. Xenon lamps have the disadvantage of requiring a much higher voltage to start, compared to other HID lamps.

    5. Xenon lamps have high pressures within the bulb, while other HID types have lower pressures.

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  5. phantom

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    Most kits on ebay are listed as xenon so then they should work
    As a main and dip?
     
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    This seems cheap enough (if it's any good) to experiment with without having to take the one off the bike with the possibility of permanently damaging the machines fairing and fittings. You could open one of these, set it up on the bench with 12volt supply and experiment with bulbs and focusing to your hearts content.

    Front Headlight Headlamp Assembly Honda CBR 1000RR CBR1000RR 2008-2012 | eBay
     
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  8. phantom

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    Im waiting for an mot then I will try h7r bulbs
    Seeing they are meant to work with the standard reflector.
     
  9. Phil.O

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    I can vouch for them working, had one in my 600, meant to take a pic but dropped her off this morning when I p/x'd for the blade. Went through an MOT no worries
     
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  10. phantom

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    cheers for that ;)
     
  11. Phil.O

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    Anytime :)

    Not much I know about blades yet but I know HIDs quite well. Debating them for the blade at the mo.....
     
  12. phantom

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    so have I, main thing I dredd is getting that damn nose cone off again.bloody nightmare
     
  13. Phil.O

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    HAHAHA!!!!! I know exactly what you mean!

    Worth in the end but what ba#*?!d of a job. That said, its pretty easy to take off.....it's the putting back together I hate
     
  14. phantom

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    yeah trying to get everything to "click"
    the designers these days need a good kick up the ass
     
  15. Phil.O

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    Just make them do some work on one of their designs!!

    Though then they'd probably lose all the nice lines and everything
     
  16. phantom

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    well the nose cone could be better, say undo side fairing screws
    few underneath then off it pops, but instead its clipped to this bit
    and that bit and then when it does start to release there is something
    else needing unclipped....all a plot to get us to get the stealers to do all the work
     
  17. Phil.O

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    Oh great, the fun I have to look forward to.......didn't realise it was that much hassle!
     
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