Battery in a 2010

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  1. bladerunner2010

    bladerunner2010 Active Member

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    As I am nowhere near my bike just now and I have decided that I need a new battery, trouble is I don't know the part number nor can I get any info or numbers off my battery until I return home, Do any of you guy's know off hand the serial number and make of the blade battery, just so I can get one ordered thru my partner who is in the motor trade and gets healthy discount

    Cheers. Bob
     
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  4. bladerunner2010

    bladerunner2010 Active Member

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    Thanks for the info guys I'll get one ordered up
     
  5. travellingkiwi

    travellingkiwi Active Member

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    In a 2012, the ABS has a larger (Capacity) battery. From the owners guide

    YTZ7S 6.3Ah == CBR1000RR
    YTZ10S 9.1Ah == CBR1000RR ABS

    The ABS is physically larger too... And heavier... By quite a bit...

    YTZ7S
    Dimensions : 113mm x 70mm x 105mm
    Weight (filled) : 2.1kg

    YTZ10S
    Dimensions : 150mm x 87mm x 93mm
    Weight (filled) : 3.2kg


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  6. mckeann

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    Hi Folks,

    I take it the 10S will fit straight in a non ABS bike??

    I'm fed up with my non ABS blade being a pig to start if left for any time at all. I don't have regular access to a trickle charger unfortunately, so i need all the help i can get.
     
  7. ColinBR

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    Not going by the dimensions of the ABS battery compared to the no ABS version.

    You may be as well looking for a motobatt as it has a larger cold cracking capacity.
    I found the motobatt to cure all problems I was having with my SP1 and its a large V-Twin.
     
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  9. JM1

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    Get a lithium-ion battery.
     
  10. Pete1987

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    I was in the torment of lithium ion and the motobatt ones, glad i picked the motobatt battery for my abs.
    Hasnt missed a beat since i fitted it not been on trickle charge at all.
    Cost way less than a lithium one too.

    Motobatt is what i will be using from now on on my bikes.
     
  11. Only1Matrixxx

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    Yup, motobatt all the way for me!!
     
  12. JM1

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    Lithium costs more because it weighs FAR less.
     
  13. mckeann

    mckeann Active Member

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    I had a lithium battery for my R1 and it was a PITA. Didnt start the bike anywhere near as well as a well charged standard battery. Although the bike is used for trackdays, i dont really care about the 2kg saved, i just want a reliable starter.
     
  14. Kentblade

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    Wouldn't touch a lithium-ion battery with a barge pole, looks whats happened to all those Boeing 787s, last thing I need is the battery going up in flames and torching me tackle whilst I am flying down the motorway.

    If it ain't broke don't fix it.....lead acid rules.
     
  15. Sideshow Pob

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    There's a fair bit misunderstanding about lightweight lithium batteries for bikes. It wont be too long before sportsbikes will come from the factory with them at this rate, they have really improved in the past couple of years.

    First myth to bust is that they wont explode or catch fire on your bike, they really are a lot safer than that. There are different lithium technologies out there and the majority of bike batteries use perfectly safe Lithium Iron Phosphate. If you go to a Radio Controlled car race meeting you might see people fast charging Lithium Polymer batteries in 'bomb tanks'. These are a little bit more powerful (hence the electric car racers want to use them) but they are dangerous. Certainly the lithium batteries I supply (manufactured by Ultrabatt in Holland) are 100% safe and will not catch fire or blow up even in an accident. I actually once tested Lithium Iron Phosphate cells by short circuiting them and trying to blow them up. Eventually, after about 5 minutes in a hot fire, they did actually open up with a bit of a bang. So actually, I lied! If you have an accident on your bike and crash into a petrol tanker and both motorcycle and petrol tanker catch fire, then after a few minutes your lithium battery will very possibly explode with a small bang and give you a bit of a bruise but you may be in a lot more trouble by that point anyway due to other circumstances! But with your 'average' accident the battery will remain stable.

    Secondly, Lithium batteries in the early days were not always holding their charge but things have changed and they now perform better than lead acid in this respect. If it was me, I would still look after an expensive investment like a lithium battery and remove it from the bike if I wasn't going to be using the bike for 3 months. But for an all weather, all year round biker, there should be no problem. But these batteries tend to get sold to racers due to their light weight and so don't get used much over the winter months.

    The Ultrabatt UB400Lite comes in at 728g - yes that 3/4 of a kilogramme and measures 114 x 62 x 81mm. The RRP is £175 but I could be persuaded to do a forum discount / group buy.

    I also sell Motobatt batteries and find them to be very good too. They are a development of lead acid technology and have very good high cranking output. They have developed a range of batteries and spacers so that a minimum number of batteries can cover a much larger range of OEM batteries. No great weight saving but very good reliable batteries. They tend to have dual terminals (2 for postive and 2 for negative) in order to cover most applications which can be a big help with adding accessories and the like.

    Hope that helps

    Paul - Black & White Bikes
     
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  17. Pete1987

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    But i could have a dump and save the weight difference :p
     
  18. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Good to see someone else dispelling the myth of LiFePO batteries (sideshow) :)

    I've sold a few Shido LiPo's with no problems I also run them myself in my Blade and Ducati with no problems. The only real downside is I'd recommend you budget for a LiFePO charger if you wish to leave it over the winter or have an alarm or tracker fitted. The cost is the only real negative point to them!

    I don't just run them for the weight saving but other pro points too like CCA etc etc..

    Pete never weighed my morning session but not sure what your eating mate but you may have to go some to get a couple of Kg's ;) lol
    http://blogs.menshealth.com/health-headlines/our-bodies-our-disgusting-selves/2011/04/09


    Take note there are some "cheap" batteries on eBay etc that are not what they seem!

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    Blades YTZ7S


    Battery tech is unchanged for over 150 years I think its time it moved on....I know it has for me in regards to battery tech. :)
     
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  19. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Much smaller and cranks the L twin no problem if not better!!!

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    RR7 YTZ10S
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    LiFePO chargers :)
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