Super bike v super stock TT

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  1. Carl

    Carl Well-Known Member

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    No results in this thread!!

    I was staggered by the £60k difference in super to stock which achieved 7 seconds over 38 miles, one could argue that a change of road tyres to slick my trim that back a bit as well. It was interesting to see where the extra money is spent, if you didn't see the TT on itv4 last night, try to catch a re-run, it was very interesting.
     
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  2. Jimbo Vills

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    not surprised in the cost hike, some serious bling on the SBK... the clocks alone were £2.5k...although like you say, got to question the ££ v performance gain. but all in the name of R&D

    but then least you can be smug in the fact your £12k bike aint that bad.

    although, not that the stock bike is £12k either ;) - thought that bit was misleading tbh. think a decent Stocker is about £20k against £80k SBK - might be wrong, sure someone will confirm.
     
  3. SIDEWAYS

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    Is that 220bhp vs 175 bhp engines?I know the HRC internals and headwork costs serious money.Is the weight the same.I know Michael Dunlop lost alot of weight too,perhaps that is how he was quicker.What are the weights of both bikes?
     
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    think so mate, but then just proves that bhp is pointless without controll... put my money on the suspension and tyres making the difference on the roads...
     
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  5. lambeth longshanks

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    Seriously trick wheels on the Superbikes and the weight loss over the bumps and jumps....exponential.
     
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    I have Dunlops clock bracket on my blade...
     
  7. SIDEWAYS

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    Back wheel is alot further back too on the superbike.Some of those rear sprockets were huge.Love to have a go on either on a track would be good but on a road that is crazy.
     
  8. exfire

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    It was interesting to see the costs. The engine work costs a hell of a lot and they skipped over that pretty quickly. I was thinking of getting mine done, nothing close to superbike level, but just upgrading cam, pistons, gas flowed etc, I got scared when the maths in my head got to around 4K and the guy was not finished. Plus you then need a better swingarm to handle the extra power and a host of other things. Plus of course, they never mentioned labour costs.

    I don't think they even mentioned the rear shock, those Ohlins forks though were pure porn and only around 10K.

    Made my expenditure on mine seem rather pathetic, although the Missus might not think so if she ever found out :eek:

    Would love to ride one though, power must be awesome.

    Full credit to the guys that ride them, but with all the trick parts it is easier to go faster and to some extent it is safer. I have noticed I can ride faster yet safer since my mods ie wheels, brakes, suspension, damper etc. The bike is great stock, but good mods make a difference and they definitely flatter my riding abilities.
     
  9. phantom

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    Also remember stock isnt so stock.
    There is some tuning allowed so they
    Would probably blow our factory standard
    Bikes out of the water in acceleration.
     
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  10. abv

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    With Dunlop's new Superstock lap record yesterday the difference between that and McGuinness's Superbike record is just 3.542 secs !

    Superbike McGuiness 17:11.572
    Superstock Dunlop 17:15.114

    I've just looked up the Superstock regs., they're actually pretty tight.

    Engine wise they can change the head gasket and fit a full exhaust system. They can change the ECU or add a Power Commander but the cost can't be more than 1.5 times the original system.

    Suspension wise they can fit new fork internals and change the rear shock.

    The rest is pretty much stock.

    Shows how good the our bikes are to start with.


    Link to regs FIM Regs
     
  11. Kentblade

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    Jimbo is spot on with his comments above, and obviously the challenges found on the Isle of Fireblade are very different to closed circuit racing. The wide operating ranges the suspension is subjected to is the most critical area in getting the bike to lap fast around 37 miles of country lanes. If the rider has no confidence in what's moving around underneath him, he cannot use the power he has available. Another 20/30/40 ponies are useless if you cannot lay them down effectively.

    It relates directly to real world road riding, where for many years the Blade has not been the sharpest tool in the box with the highest power or trickiest electronic controls etc., but the sum of its parts is just so good, it makes even average riders look good.
     
  12. phantom

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    shocks are where its at but the race ecu's also
    add a good bit of power, you see some superstock
    bikes spitting flames on the over-run which is showing
    how much fuel is running through them.
     

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