changing up no clutch

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  1. Yorkshire Tyke

    Yorkshire Tyke Elite Member

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    Yo guys

    ive been practicing clutch wheelies a lot recently (on a private road), mostly to get to know the blade but also out of boredom. just wanting to know what im missing with changing gear? Ive managed to fairly consistently ride out second gear but not to the limiter, still a little hit and miss but learning ok. ive tried changing up to third but every time i do the front wherl just keeps dropping down. its like ita running out of puff or something. anyway just after some advice and not the generic "wheelies are for idiots" or "redline it and let go of the clutch" just some pointers from anyone who shares the same enthusiasm.

    Cheers

    :)
     
  2. Givover

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    Bye bye Blade ;)
     
  3. Yorkshire Tyke

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    Yeah cheers giv well done for getting there first!!
     
  4. Givover

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    Its the only thing that has stopped me trying Tyke for me there is only one outcome I have a mate who can do it easy on a Busa .but the common theme is always the guys that do it well always have or have had crossers .
     
  5. Yorkshire Tyke

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    Yeah ive a mate whos got a crf450 and hes pretty handy with that. Aswell as the whole knee down thing its just always something thats amazed me since i was little watchin racers with my dad. call it a bucket list :p
     
  6. sinewave

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    Two up on the rear sprocket helps lots!

    Get yer sen down to the Demon Tweeks open day this Sat, there is a static Wheelie machine there to practice on! :D
     
  7. Jase

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    I used to have a honda xr650 and yam wr450 and could stick it on its back wheel until I got board,but the power was a lot more controlled, on my blade I feel as though the fu5ker wants to take of in to space ,I will master it just need somewhere to practice it .
     
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  8. Yorkshire Tyke

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    Yeah the blade on power is too much for me feel like im gonna loop it. clutch is much better. i know loads of lads who have changed gearing and just do it on power but it never looks controlled. if im warmed up and in the zone one the bike i can lift it to more or less the same position with the clutch however with power its just like opening the flood gates!! Fun but unpredictable me thinks. each to their own, some people are mint at power wheelies but i think with blade its a lot of power to be messin with
     
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    Used to be a demon on my tl1000r wheelies clutch less changes . But after 2 gearboxes lack of oil I put it on the back burner lol . I still have the cheeky stand up wheelie when leaving the cafe Bridgnorth and that quickshifter helps . I seem to find my balance point easily just due to racing moto x all those years ago just keep that back brake covered don't slap it on or you will be eating your clocks
     
  10. martinowen

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    Find yourself a fat bird, not only do they apparently try harder in the sack she will prob keep that front wheel up all the way to 6th!
     
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    If it's coming down in third you're not high enough. You need to find the balance point, not just keeping it up on the power. Get a mate to video you and you'll be shocked at how low the front end is. Problem is, when you're mid wheelie it always feels like it's coming over on you. You'll know when you hit the balance point 'cos the bike feels like it's floating......that's when you can keep it up using small tweeks on the throttle and not revving out in each gear.
    Another tip is to do it on a wide road, it'll feel much more controlled than a narrow one which just overloads your brain. The pro's always let some air out of the rear which gives you more stability.
    As said earlier you really can't beat learning on a crosser.
     
  12. phantom

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    its an easy fix mate, when you lift it up cover the brake then start putting a
    little pressure on the gear shifter and this is the important bit.
    give it a little more gas to lift the front end, as soon as it lifts that bit more
    quickly roll off a little and the gear just slips and you can get back on the
    gas before the front end drops.so just remember, cover the rear and change
    as the front lifts not when your holding a constant height.
     
  13. steve b

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    never could do wheelies cos I'm pants,good luck with youre quest though
     
  14. phantom

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    they are not that hard, just takes practice.
     
  15. jetmadblade

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    I found my self trying this just on Wednesday on the power but not much luck on the clutch yet,but as said above I also have a gas gas so it come onaturel...
    The power wheely, come off the gas and gas it to get the linier motion and forks rebound then "reach for the sky" [woody out of toy story]...
     
  16. phantom

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    I never clutch it up, I know its meant to be better as it
    gets the front wheel higher sooner but I just preferred using
    a twist of the wrist.
     
  17. Tinks

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    Too scared to practise in case I bin it :(
     
  18. Yorkshire Tyke

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    First time I've actually tried to learn is on the blade. Just a little bit at a time, start small and work your way up. When people say give it loads of revs and just let your clutch out they are just trying to make you wreck your bike!
     
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  19. phantom

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    yup too true, heard people saying that before.
    just start small, roll off and on again just before the
    power kicks in around mid range on the revs.and for
    starting always make a mental note first to cover the brake.
     
  20. levin

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    Iv never tried to change up to 3rd yet , just ride it in 2nd , I find im opening and closing the throttle to keep up,
    08 blade is the easiest bike to wheelie iv owned , it just has the strenght in midrange to pull the wheel up easily
    I use both ways clutch up at slower speeds or power up if the rpm is high enough,
    Nothing like powering the front wheel up after coming out of a bend :)
     
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