OE Bridgestone Tyres

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  1. rtasker

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    OE Bridgestone Tyres - My confidence shaken

    Was wondering if anyone could jog my memory. I remember reading a remark in one of the bike mags a few months back, saying that the S20 tyres that come as standard on new blades are not the real deal. It said that they are an S20 tread pattern on a much older tyre. Does anyone know if:
    a) This is credible. I find it hard to believe.
    b) What magazine and month it was.

    The reason I ask is that recent experience has seriously knocked my confidence in my front tyre. This is the original front tyre, that is now running with a replacement rear.

    Thanks
     
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  2. Jimbo Vills

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    Every oem tyre I've had have been pants of the highest order!!

    Beleive it or not, and I struggled to get my head round, but I think you are right on the money, same name different rubber!! :(
     
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    My 13 Plate Blade came with Dunlop Qualifier 2's.

    Fecked em off at less than 500 miles for PR3's

    Fecked them off at 2650 miles for Pirelli Rosa Corsa's as although they gripped well and would have lasted 5K miles they were too hard at the rear for my liking.

    Rosa Corsa's (for the mo) Rock! :cool:
     
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    Not saying any of you are wrong but would big tyre makers really risk their rep like that?

    If I run the company I would make sure the best are fitted as if people get on well with them they will order again and again, if the tyres were shite from the off it would prob put people off that maker for life!
     
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    Mine come with s20s done 2 trackdays with them inters and fast group at mallory and Anglesey they seemed to do fine for me
     
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    No problem with mine either. Obviously not trying hard enough.
     
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    How are the corsa's wearing? I'd be interested in knowing how quick they wear as thinking of getting these after I wear out my pilot pures!
     
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    I'm not sure if they do Martin, but I have heard that the stock tyres are not the "same grade" as same model if you replace after?

    That's what I was saying, struggled to get my head round it but is a theory I've heard before.

    As for putting off a brand for life, I know, mad ain't it, Dunlop qualifiers that mine came with are truly horrible, but they do make some awesome tyres....

    Can't see how they would be prepared to fcuk their reputation in order to put shite tyres on a bike to keep show room prices down!? Obviously the new bike tyre market makes money!?
     
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    I just can't see the business sense in it but that's why I don't earn half as much dosh as they do I suppose
     
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    Dunlop is owned by Goodyear and trades under its own name in the US Europe and Australia in Japan its owned by Sumitomo who manufacture under the Dunlop name....so maybe there is a difference.just a thought.
     
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    Me neither.... But if they down spec it but still make say £50 a set (just example amount)but guarantee 1000's of sales on new unit items such as blades and 600's and hope to get some brand allegiance (some people might not know any better) from being sole supplier for a manufacturer, they are going to take it...

    Sure their marketing dept have done the sums lol
     
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    How you know that??? :)
     
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    Not just a pretty bus driver James LOL
     
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    Thanks for the replies. Think I will change the front before getting back on the road. For the moment though, I have a broken bike in the garage and a broken ankle to deal with.

    The thing that really bothers me is that it was on a track day, and I was steadily increasing the pace, and had had no slips of any kind until the front suddenly let go. My previous bike, with BT016 or BT021 tyres never behaved like that.
     
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    Can't comment yet mate, omlu done 75 miles
     
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    I've owned two new bikes and both have had shit tyres. My old ZX-10R more so than the Fireblade......they were Dunlops. The bike was transformed with some Diablos....it really did feel like a different bike.

    When the Fireblade was new i pootled around for 600 miles until it was serviced and then put some 2CTs on it.

    I reckon the Bike manufacturers put tenders out for tyres for new bikes. A £20 a set saving for 10000 bikes is........erm.....a lot....
     
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    As already posted i've never had a OE tire that is any good. talking to a few manufactures over the years all said the same. Example. the OE tire on my blade was a bridgtstone 015. it was horrid. And after talking to bridgestone they said the tire was not the same 015 that you would buy in a dealer/shop. Dunlop said the same to me. As posted above it's down to the manufacture who buy bulk cheap tires to fit on their 1000's of new bikes and not up to the quality you would buy in shops/dealers
     
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  19. rtasker

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    Then I really think this should be made clear when the bike is sold. If you are informed of this fact then you know to change both of the original tyres together.

    Makes me wonder what other nasties are lurking in there to be discovered the hard way.
     
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    Maybe polystyrene brakes to save costs!
     

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