Bmw s1000rr Has a BMC air filter Std down pipes with EXCV fitted 02 sensors disconnected Yoshi slip on fitted PC 5 Max power -190.02 Max Torque-81.49 Honda CBR 1000rr Has a KN filter fitted Standard down pipes Yoshi slip on PC5 Max power -164.01 bhp Max Torque-78.51 They reckon by putting the standard air filter back On the Bmw and some very expensive oil they can get 200bhp (he has offered to go halfs on the oil as an experiment to see if it can be done as he read about it in some tuning mag)
No denying the difference in HP, but the Mk1 I rode back to back with my blade felt 'lacking' on roads in the mid range - really needed to be worked to the top revs to get going. Also heard the Blade at speed makes a bit more with the ram air effect - prob. the BMW does to 6th gear 50 to 180mph roll on, the BMW was maybe 20m ahead - nothing really till mega high speeds
I had a short spin tonight and it didn't feel much difference to the blade but that was normal riding through town ,as you said Al the bmw has to be high revs to really see the difference .I am out this weekend with Firebloke so I am sure it will get tested .
I was talking to a guy in the paddock last weekend who has an S1000RR which was making 204bhp, but he seemed to be frustrated by it. He said it went like hell, but you had to rev it as the mid range was not so strong. Very nice bit of kit indeed though.
Interested to know more about the 204 bhp s1 only as Ive made so many enquiries with tuners to get more power from one, most shy away from them as such a stressed motor and they don't respond well to flow work etc. The old s1 made strong peak power 196 on the same dyno a blade makes 165 but the new bike looses some bragging rights as same dyno reads 185 BUT riders say IS a much better bike with more mid range power and better throttle response, they NEED a SFM as again rider feedback without shows throttle response to be poor but dyno charts with just a PCV show not much change, the bike maps well with just PCV but SFM is required to get the best from the bike off paper. I know a good few frustrated riders with the bikes electronics and top end stability seems to be a big problem with a good few bikes also owners who still HIGHLY rate the blade along side the s1. I look after a few low mile first and second model bikes and so far they seem to have some corrosion issues and oil usage, dealers near me have limited skill it would seem with setting up superbikes and fitting performance parts etc. Though I'd just add some views of my own... Also you can get another 10bhp out of one by joining the s1 forum....lolololol
I was surprised by that figure too. It was an ex BSB bike and the guy had thrown oodles of cash at it to try to get it set up for himself. He was selling it at the end of the year to go back into the 600 class, as he was less than half a second slower on his 600 around Brands. The thousand class is dominated by Blades or ZX10s and the ZX10 does seem to be the weapon of choice, but needs a bit more setting up than the Blade.
tell me about it! Even at my very amateur level, the pursuit of a quicker time costs a small fortune. Mainly in repair bills following an off. But at the top level, it is a whole different ball game. One lad who occasionally turns up to show us all up, has an annual budget of £80,000 and a dedicated Ohlins guy. admittedly he is a top contender in British Superstocks, but even so, you can't afford to compete at that level. Having said that, there is so much pressure on him to do well, that the fun possibly gets taken out of it. we have our own little battles in the second half of the field, but the fun element seems to be much higher.
This is true. At times the dream becomes a nightmare and I am not sure the bank manager would describe it as a dream, but the Manx is calling, so I shall do what I can to get there. Still wouldn't change it for the world!
He did tell me the name of the Oil but i have crap memory will let you know ,its going know where near the track thats the blades job i am having a good ride on the Bmw tommorow so will post up my views on it,what i will say is i love the look and riding position of it and there is no clunk when you put it in first gear. I was at Oulton the other week and there was a load of s1000rr there and all i heard was positive feedback from the lads riding them.
Will be interesting to see my figures on the dyno tomorrow with similar setup but full yoshi system....
Hi guys is it not a case of the Blade having a pure connection between a truly balanced chassis and a extremely tractable engine over a electronically controlled and governed bike with dynamic flaws that relies on the electronics to make it a better bike? By nature the electronic are there to reign things back (slow it down) thinking what's the point? I've never really heard much more about the non electronic S1000RR that came out along with the all singing all dancing one! I know a guy that bought the non leccy one in 2010 he only kept it a few weeks but the non leccy one has never been put into the mix with any shootouts like Blade,GSXR,R1 with non leccy ZX10 & S1000RR. that would make interesting reading
That's cause all the 'Non-Lecky' one's have been snapped up by Track Day Riders and Club Racers who don't want all the 'Lecky' shyte slowing their lap times!
