What security?

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  1. madmac

    madmac Well-Known Member

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    I'm taking delivery of my 2009 Repsol Fireblade tomorrow (YAY!) and after reading some of the horror stories regarding thefts etc. on here I am getting a little worried about security. It is a little more desirable than my 10 year old CBR600F so I'm starting to panic. The new bike doesn't currently have an alarm or tracker or anything, and based on the Datatool System 3 on my old bike I am tempted not to fit one anyway as that did cause some problems occasionally.

    So it's back to physical security - but what's best. I'll get a decent chain for when it's in the garage at home - but need something smaller for when I am out and about on it. Obviously I don't want to have to lug around a 20mm chain with me looking like something out of Mad Max, so what's small enough to stow somewhere in a pocket or on the bike but good enough to secure the bike when I park it up somewhere?

    Haven't used a disc lock for years so I have no idea which ones are good or even if they are still worth bothering with or if there is anything better?

    Advice please :confused:
     
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  3. Hudson

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    I would say that the Road Lok looks excellent, never heard of it before but after watching the video i would say it is a good mobile security solution...... the only better one would be a decent (long) chain, but then again you need to lock it round something that can not move !!! In reality this is virtually impossible, you would be lucky enough to find a solid object that you could use, so i would say a Roadlok would be the best solution. Alarms... forget it, useless waste of money.

    In terms of garage security i would say an Alamax chain (any one really) and a Hardie ground anchor, combine this with extending your house alarm to cover your garage and i would say you are as safe as you can be. The house alarm can be amended easily with a wireless receiver and shock sensors, i had it done for about £200, so when the garage is broken into my house alarm goes off not some poxy, tinny plastic box in the corner with 2 AA batteries in it !!! Just be aware of where you are parking it and how it is overlooked (or not). Lovely bike.
     
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  4. madmac

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    Thanks :)

    The RoadLok looks neat but not sure about carrying extra weight on the front wheel all the time. But it looks like it overcomes the issue of normal disc locks and the damage caused to the bike if someone tries to move it.

    I'll look at the videos properly later (no speakers on this PC at the moment).
     
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    The Roadlock is completley useless IMHO.

    Pro Theive's rob Bikes like Blades to order or for parts.

    They simply rock up in a Van, get out and lift the fecker straight in and fek off in less than 2 minutes!

    The Roadlock is useless against this theft.

    Only useful physical theft device is a decent chain like the Almax 3 chained round street furniture etc.

    I have a 3 and a 4 for use at home with a ground anchor.

    Almax Security Chains Limited

    Almax S4 1 (2).jpg
     
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  6. Plake

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    There's no way a massive chain is a practical solution away from home - you'll almost never find something to chain it to whilst parking legally.

    My most cost effective and easily portable anti theft device is a shabby looking lightweight Oxford scooter cover that packs down to fit in one of the outside pockets of my Kriega 30 rucksack, or a bumbag.

    A disc lock stops opportunistic muppets wheeling it away so is worth using, and i always do, but is obviously useless against organised teams with vans.

    In addition I have a tracker which is not really to deter theft but might give me the opportunity to nail the sort of wanker that steals motorbikes. Which would be worth three times the money. It texts me if the bike gets touched so I could decide to pop outside to have a surprise chat about how much head wounds bleed.
     
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    blades dont get stolen by kids they are mainly taken to order and put in vans. mine was taken in less then 15mins in broad daylight! cover it and chain it to something! oh and tracker!
     
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    It weighs hardly anything mate so you really won't notice it. It is only suggested as an additional security option as said above it wouldn't stop the bike being lifted into a van as my last bike was....
     
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    Having been a victim last year, the only way to stand a chance is being chained to something, everything else is just part of the overall security package, but on their own are useless, and by that I mean alarm, disclock, tracker etc.

    The scum have no fear from stopping and lifting a bike in 15-20 secs with the alarm blaring and people walking along, so why waste money on anything unless you can chain it?
     
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  10. GSP

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    Makes me glad mine is only a toy that never leaves my sight when I'm out on it.

    At home it's in an alarmed garage, with extra external locks, and always a car parked in front of it. Inside there is a load more security lol.
     
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    Lol, that reminds me of me :D
    Goes to bed with a Cat 1 alarm\immobiliser, with alarm disc lock, ground anchored inside a garage blocked by 2 alarmed cars all covers by security lights, a camera and 2 dogs that kick off if someone even looks at my gate the wrong way.

    I may have a security OCD :D

    On the road, I rely on a coil lock, the alarm disc lock, the factory alarm\immobiliser and the fact that the bike never leaves my sight.
    If I need to pop somewhere on a bike then I borrow our lasses moped.
     
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    Can any body recommend a good ground anchor?? as im about to move house and will need to get a new one
     
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    My new black bike arrives next week. My 2012 was stolen by the scumbags of South London!
    I intend to fit as much security as possible this time. I quite like the thought of 20,000 volts
    Passing through a thiefs body, but I think that might be illegal and I will doubtless forget to disable it one day!
     
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    Madmac first thing is not to worry.

    I use a Almax series 4 chain for home, ground anchor, and ensure the garage is difficult to get into. Also added CCTV that was reasonable last year at Costco

    Away from home if I'm leaving the bike such as touring etc then I may use a disclock and smaller chain. I don't use the bike for work so never needed to really lock the bike up as its not never often away from me
     
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    My thoughts are that anything that makes a bike hard to move and noisy if anyone should try has to be a good thing. Alarms are a bit annoying to live with, but they have saved my bike on a number of occasions.
     
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  17. SteveMac

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    almax chains and anchors get my vote for home security, never have a bike go in years I had mine parked ouside my house in darkest Chatham.

    out and about I use an Alarm and the best coil/chain lock I can carry.
     
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    I have used Xena for few years now. IT is an alarmed disk lock with movement sensor which activate a 115dB alarm.
    You can expand it with an adapter to use it with the chain they also sell.
    A neat system but still not 100% theft proof
     
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  19. madmac

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    Right, I've gone for an Oxford Nemesis disc lock for starters while out and about, with an Almax chain and ground anchor to follow at home. Didn't fancy an alarmed disc lock as I've had one in the past and the reviews I've read sound like they ain't improved much (false alarms and water ingress issues etc.). The Oxford Nemesis sounds pretty solid being a 16mm shackle, plus I can use it as a padlock if I ever get a second chain. Thanks for the advice and comments guys - certainly helped :)
     
  20. Hudson

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    Well you have done what is practical which is all you can do, carrying an Almax around to tie round a lampost is just not possible so compromises need to be made, i tend not to leave my bike anywhere, i have a very secure garage and whilst at work i have an even more secure car park (Police station !).

    It a sod that we have to do this kind of thing but you can never tell where the scum are.
     
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