Scrubbing in tires!!!

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  1. Andy998

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    :confused: Ive read a lot about how to scrub new tires in, and spoken to a lot of other bikers about it. There are a thousand and one differing thoughts and ideas on how its done. According to the bloke at the Avon Tire factory, no major tire company uses a releasing agent anymore and once a new tire is up to temp its at full grip. Aprox 10 mins riding. I tried this out yesterday with new pilot powers on my blade, and he was right. Within 10 miles I was almost at full lean on 190/55/17. Anyone had similar experience with new rubber?
     
  2. bandit_287

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    New TYRES! don't need scrubbing in anymore but it doesn't hurt to take it easy until they've warmed up.
     
  3. Andy998

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    You can spell it either way its in the dictionary. But thanks for the heads up ;)
     
  4. ColinBR

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    I can garauntee you I WOULD scrub in tyres!
     
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    I'm still inclined to take things easy for the first 50-100 miles! Better safe than sorry
     
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    Totally agree Colin, had a mate who lost the front on a bend because he was too eager to get it leaned over! And this happened after he'd been riding for a couple of hours! Funny how the tyre fitter has to tell you by law to take it easy for the first 50 miles or so!
     
  7. MrB

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    Why is that what's changed ?
     
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    They still say 200/300 miles don't they? Personally, 50/100 miles and they are good to go.

    Still think you have to ease them in gently ;) even if its for your own piece of mine!
     
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    I always tell customers to take it easy and we have a warning on the invoice about it as well. I've seen many people loose it out the front of the shop due to new cold tyres. It's quite funny when they come in and they're all billy big balls 'yeah yeah had new tyres before buddy' then they scat the bike up the road and walk rather sheepishly back in asking for help or a paramedic to stitch some fingers back on in once instance.
     
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  10. exfire

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    I always take it easy for the first 100 miles as I like to try out different tyres and like to find out how the new ones react before giving them some stick.
     
  11. Broady

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    I had tyres fitted at Cadwell once,I asked the fitter about scrubbing in and his reply was take it steady for 2 laps and they are done !!!! He was right.
     
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    Got to say, can't see where this 100 mile lark has come from, I ride out on tyres the same as I rode in.
    Its the same when you told about running in a new chain, WTF is that all that about? Does it suddenly harden up after a 100 miles or so?, would like to see the science behind that one.

    Can you imagine what bike racing would be like if they all took it easy on new rubber for the first hundred miles on new tyres.
     
  13. ColinBR

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    Having had an off after 2 corners with new tyres. (doing 5mph) I can say for sure there is no doubt what so ever about taking it easy on new tyres.

    I'll add that this is the only time I've been off the bike other than a young girl knocking me off as she attempted to turn in the road with me by the side of the car.

    Ps. I'm not saying it has to be 100 miles. I'm just saying take it easy until you feel the grip is there.
     
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    Sorry Colin, do not mean to trivialise a crash, but have a image in my head of the scenario, crashing a motorbike at 5 mph, just as a jogger on the pavement overtakes you and pulls away
     
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    warm them up and you're good to go on modern tyres, they don't use release agent these days, just compressed air to get them out of the moulds
    on a track day with brand new rubber, tyre warmers are all you need, they grip straight away once warmed up
     
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  16. ColinBR

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    Not even as lucky as that mate.
    Pull away on a slight right hander get to a T junction slow to almost a stop and turn left.
    Bike slides down the road without me. I didn't even hit the deck. Just went backwards to 1 side and caught myself with my left hand out wondering what went on.
     
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    You pay your money and you take your chances. Personally I take it easier on new tyres for a while. Want to get them warmed up to ensure the fitting and valve are ok. Saying that I tend to take it easier whenever there is a reasonably serious change such as new pads or new brake flu in order to give things a chance to bed in and any human errors to show up. There again I ride like a tart at the best of times ;)
     
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    Seen a few offs due to new tyres.All of them have been a few hundred yards from tyre places and dealers.So I'm sticking to the old rule SCRUB EM FIRST.Its horrid seeing all those bikes go down the road and the lads I've helped up looking gutted.It only takes one twitch from either end and thats it.
     
  19. SimonRR

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    Cold tyres will do that, always warm them up, but they don't need scrubbing in over 100 miles like they used too :)

    Things do chance you know people, the main reason for the gentle scrubbing in was the slippery release agent the tyres were covered in to get them out of the moulds, compressed air is used now

    So allow them to warn up thoroughly and then you ok
     
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    If I google myself, I've had 4 wives, 16 addresses, 8 companies, 12 jobs, 43 Facebook pages and 103 kids. Most of what you read on the net is out of date, or written by complete tossers that don't know what they are talking about.... Oh and of course the scouse 12 year old that has made a youtube video of it.
     

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