Want more out my bike

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by W9tte, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Alblade

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    Similar to what Y.T. wrote - spend money on tuition and training is also a good investment

    Plus take the thing on holiday for a couple of weeks somewhere hot via Germany - cost a fraction of trying to hit a speed that is kind of pointless - Max your bike out for 2 / 3 mins as it is then come back on here and tell us how much faster it needs to be - trust me at 3 miles a minute you soon run out of road!
     
  2. Jonnymac

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    As most have said, it is aerodynamics that come into play at these speeds.
    I have a friend that does top speed runs at Elvinton and another that does the wheelie records up there.
    The wheelie guy has a stock S1000RR and when he cocks one up does a speed run instead. Most he got out of it on the timing lights was 186mph
    The top speed guy has a relatively stock Hayabusa. It has a full titanium exhaust, power commander and is deristricted. His top speed on that is 208mph on the lights
    If you really wanna crack the 200, buy a 'Busa or a ZZR1400 and spend a couple of grand on that
     
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  3. exfire

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    Whilst the desire to hit 200 mph is not an agenda item for me, I can understand the desire to accelerate incredibly quickly and to hit a speed which which makes you think OMG that is just too much.

    At some stage I have pushed all of my bikes to the max and I am sure many others have done so on here, legally of course.

    I would just love to have a bike that could actually go faster than my nerves would allow me to. For me it's part of the buzz in life, pushing things to the extreme, pushing yourself past boundaries. It was one of the reasons I became a firefighter, I just loved the adrenalin and although I used to get scared I loved the rush.

    May seem strange to some people, but I just love things that are dangerous, even though at the time they scare the hell out of me.At 57 yrs old I still love the rush just as much, if not more than when I was younger.

    What I do not do though is risk anyone elses life, just my own.
     
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  4. PeterT

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    The faster you go the thicker the air becomes and you need enormous horsepower to break through this barrier. As said you need at least another 30+ BHP, but it does not end there. Friction from moving parts is your next hurdle, specialised low friction wheel bearings, harder compound tyres which create less drag, friction free chains and sprockets and so forth. This is where racing firsts are won, not just horsepower gains. Then aerodynamics come into play??? Where does your budget stand?:rolleyes:
     
  5. Nutty Tart

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    After this much tuning ..... in the crapper :p
     
  6. restone

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    Bollox to all that tuning malarky I'm gonna get me some of that red gaffer tape like that lass was using on the salt flats in slicks post,
    THAT STUFF IS CHUFFING MUSTARD:cool:. Not only does it hold the world together,(i'm led to beleive there is a big band of it all the way round the equator)
    It gives you an extra 40 bhp........bet its dear though probably £20 a roll:eek:
     
  7. masterblader

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    The first time I clocked 186 the clocks went 88888 with no further air/fuel the ECU puts paid to that the true speed was in fact 178mph. To get away from the restriction you'd have to get a competition ECU, that would get you an extra 5mph, the aero dynamics at 184 is like hitting a brick wall. The overall gearing on the 2008 on is lower than the previous blades so the quest of getting 200mph is out of reach even with higher gearing it might reach 190. Getting that elusive 10mph will cost mega bucks with major engine tuning.
     
  8. BlackDevil

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    It will cost you about 2500 GBP to get your bike to 207 HP, but you should have already installed a Akrapovic Exhaust.
    The company who does it - including a 2 year warranty - is located in the right country for speed, in Germany.
    Its about 500 miles each way to drive from Bristol to Bonn -GE- and not to far away from the Nuerburgring.
    After the Job is done, you can test ride your bike an try to reach the 200mph, which is possible on German Motorways if
    you know where to drive ( I can tell your where, if you want ). I am thinking to let the guy do it on my bike as well. If so , I am planing to go to Germany next year. Let me know if you or anybody else are interested to do so.

    Welcome to LKM
     
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  9. Kafka

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    Well, i think the problem is a question of aerodynamic, lowering the friction and increase power. Use a higher windscreen (as those of tt of Man) and buy a pair of rim in magnesium or carbon with the respective bearings in ceramic. And increase power with another air filter and bazzaz and get rid of the catalytic converter (or buy a new exhaust without it).
    But from these upgrades the must for me, is the ceramic bearings and the carbon or magnesium wheels. I'l like to test only these two to see the difference..
    I reach sometimes the 186 (299Km/h) easily in my country. It is warmer than yours, the air is less dense and the wind causes less impact in the head or shoulders..
    Did u have speed control in every highway?:eek:
     
  10. Kafka

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    I forgot one thing...
    If u do everything that i suggested u spend the same money as a bmw1000rr!! This is why is more expensive than the blade... Marchesi, tracion control, quickshift, more power and akrapovic... ;)
     
  11. scooby

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    warmer weather=less power though,bit like altitude.
     
  12. Mad Matt

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    I was always under the impression that warmer air was thicker??
     
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    I believe having your ecu flashed would help some, wont get you to 200mph but will reduce restrictions meaning you would be able to accelerate much quicker. Ive had bikes flashed before and it makes a huge difference....
     
  14. GappySmeg

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    Tsk, back to school for you, young man!

    In warmer air, the molecules have more energy for "jigging about", and therefore nudge each other further apart, making the air less dense (less thick)... this is the basis under which hot air balloons work.
     
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    Well you learn something new everyday, thank you for the correction and the young man bit;)
     
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  16. scooby

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    hence warm air rises,cooler air falls........(thats how storms are made tha'knows!!!)

    you can force as much fuel into your engine as you like,but without enough air (oxygen at least) it'll be going nowhere.
     
  17. Kafka

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    In fact i feel less air resistance driving but if it is too hot there is less quantity of Oxygen for combustion=less power.
    i like the temperature about 10 - 14º Celsius and a clean sky. Didn't u feel difference in the air resistance with the temperature?
     
  18. rab

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    buy a hayabusa s1000rr etc do your homework google cbr1000rr best midrange 200 plus hit a drag strip
     
  19. SimonRR

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    One fact that comes into play with Injectors and ECU, the air temperature sensor in the air box will automatically adjust the required fuel /air mixture to within -/+ 5%. On a rather chilly day the throttle response is very noticeable.
     

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