Brand new SP ABS model 663 miles on the clock 1. Decal peeling away on upper fairing. 2. Yes the dreaded front brake lever all the way back to the throttle. HELLO Honda I thought we'd sorted all this ABS nonsence out so what's the problem?
Honda deny there ever was any issues with their abs system! They obviously don't know how to use google!
We'll see coz it'll be going in for warranty work once new fairing arrives and not just the large decal their trying to flob me off with. Only happened when I was stationary with the rear brake on, engine running but not moving.
This sux arse mate! they'll bleed the system and say it'll be fine. Im not going to go on anymore...my actions say all I need to say about Hondas C-ABS! Hope you get it all sorted...video the problems it may come in handy as a 'bargaining' tool if needed!
That would sound right based on the info they shared as it tends to always happen at low speeds, filtering or after you have came to a standstill. Its an odd sensation and only happens to me on this model and no other bike with ABS including BMW S1000RR.
The baby 600rr has the same "characteristic" as Honda describe it! Still can't get my head round how a brake system not doing its job of pushing the pistons out in the calliper when the lever is pulled and actually "BRAKE!" can be classed as a characteristic!
Can you work out a sequence to prompt it to happen, so you can demonstrate it. If you can, get it independently verified before you send it to the dealers. if you can do this a mechanical engineer will for not too large a sum give you a professional report. This will be invaluable in future negotiations. Good Luck, Mike.
Not being judgemental but I would have gone for non abs model all day long,never again will I buy a abs version,more hassle for £600 more plus if you decide to track it better without abs,just finished a abs 600 and would not have bought it if it knew what a hassle it has been even tho I got a grand and a half knocked off ,still looks a nice bike tho rich I am sure your dealer will sort it
The problem is unique to new CBR 1000RR and 600RR as it has the full Electronic C-ABS. They have seen the videos and the dealer, but unfortunately Honda can't see it!
Three points to note: 1. Next year all Hondas will be abs only although not sure how many will be combined C-ABS. 2. I never had any problems with any other ABS bike only this one I'm afraid so say which taints the bike for me. 3. Dealers do know about it and don't have a solution, but Honda claim its the characteristics of the brakes...scratching my head!
You can take the abs off and use convential braking system i have on 600 honda don't recommend it but it's no big problem the brake pipes are like wire netting tho
Will have a go at weekend but can't remember if I had the rear brake pressed at the time and I was only maneuvering the bike before starting off. I see your point Graeme but as I don't suffer with the problem on my 2013 Blade I assumed (Wrongly) all was fine with Honda's C-ABS, it may just need bleeding we'll have to wait and see.
without me harping on...thats when it generally happens at very low speed think the trigger point is below 4MPH. I have had a full bleed from Honda UK in Slough and even this weekend whilst filtering it did it.
Feeling sorry for you bud, you have just paid a lot of dosh to join Occasional Braking System club, still look on the bright side, you weren't moving, wait until the lever starts coming back to the bar at 50/60/70 mph as you are approaching a queue of traffic, it gets a little more touchy feely then. But don't panic, just come off the lever and go back on, then the dumb arsed ECU wakes up and gives full power, the first time is a shock, but you get used to it after a few times. Trouble is, Honda will never admit anything, the only answer is a total redesign of the system, and that's a corporate non stater. It would be a total bloodfest with all those Japs having to full on their swords rather than admit they fecked up.
I have never encounter at high speeds have you? Hence why I have held onto the bike I love the bloody thing apart form that
Yes Jim, that's why I mentioned it. Several times the lever has come straight back to the bar at speed. I have reported it on here and to VOSA. As soon as you come off the lever and back on, you have full power, its as if the stroke simulator is not sending a command to the ECU that the lever is moving. Just hoping that if I do kill myself by running into the back of something, hopefully someone will think to campaign on my behalf.
I like you have had VOSA involved. I had it back at the dealer who were able to simulate the fault at low speed but oddly enough at Honda UK weren't. Bike was way three months. I have just accepted it is what it is and know how to deal with it although its only ever been at low speed. Now I have read you have encountered it at high speed that gives me some concern. I think the BMW might be back on the cards
