Pilot roads 3 or 4 ?

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  1. Mr OCD

    Mr OCD Well-Known Member

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    :D Always one that rises to the bait... ;)

    Any MODERN sports tyre that has multi-compound will do 4-5k rear, 6-7k front on a CBR riding on the road, yet cope with track days and fast ride outs just fine. The exception will be if your a fat fuck or run low tyre pressures which will create higher wear. ;)

    I use mine for commuting, track days and fast ride outs with the lads on weekends so gets a good mix of riding.

    Just checked my tyre log ... the Metzler M7RR did 4,721 miles on the rear and 6,972 miles on the front.

    Yet on a single compound sports tyre I destroyed the rear in 2,700 miles ... multi-compound tyres rock :)
     
  2. Kafka

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    For rear tyre i prefer the PR2 due to its "V" section. It is very good for dry road even in track (!). I tried the PR4 but its "U" section has less lateral grip area than the PR2. It is less good than PR4 in wet road but without compromising.
    In terms of durability both are similar.
    In the front wheel i dont see much difference in grip comparing the two. I think the Pr4 has more durability than PR2 but nothing special.
    If the price is included then the first choice is PR2 for sure.

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  3. Gripper

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    I put PR4's on my blade and big difference over the dunlops that were on it. Done a few trips over the glens here in Scotland in usual wet weather and dry and grip is great.
     
  4. Slick

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    dunno if its a good price or not but http://www.oponeo.co.uk/ are doing M7rrs for £171!
     
  5. Jimbo Vills

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    half my problem was the ball ache of buying new tyres and finding the time to get them changed.... Rather be riding....

    final straw for me was burning a brand new rear in Scotland (mainly in the rain) in 1200 miles.... Was an s20 - think that's multi compound? ;)

    it didn't even get me home!

    a proper day out is what? 3/400 miles.... Be putting on a rear every other month done my head in....

    every tour i went on seemed to be a panic if my tyres would last....

    tried the pr3 on way home from Scotland and thought they were brilliant....

    moved on to four and even better.

    said it a million times but rode the ring with them as fast as possible and they still never give, seen lads sharp end of fast on a td and no drama....

    guess that makes me cheap, fanny and a lazy bastard lol but i just love the fact these give me circa 5k miles for decent money and no loss in grip or pace on the road....

    horses for corses i guess....
     
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  6. Kentblade

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    JV, if you are only getting 5K out of a 4, then better add low pressured fat arse to your list matey. :D
     
  7. Jimbo Vills

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    im sensitive about my weight :(

    they are purely Sunday thrash tyres mate so not commute etc...

    although prob get more on the slow old triump ;)

    oh and i never check pressures.... Makes every ride exciting :)
     
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  8. Kentblade

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    Line crossed, weight inference, with you buddy. :eek:
     
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  9. Muffking

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    For me it was a case of grip from cold. After my spill on cold track tyres I wanted something that offered the best grip from the word go and heated up quickly. And if you look at the tread pattern you can see that there's a lot of room for movement to warm them up quickly, track tyres just can't do this and you end up tiptoeing around for miles before they warm up and then every time you stop you have to do it all over again.

    The other reasons for PR4's were that they are an all weather tyre bearing in mind that we live in the UK and that it's a road bike, so I am likely to and have get caught out in the rain, again not fun on a track tyre, dual compound or not.
     
  10. Kentblade

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    The simple reality guys and girls, is that any of us that cut our teeth in the 70s and 80s on the likes of Dunlop Ditchfinders, chassis that had a hinge in the middle, suspension that absorbed very little and brakes that gave you about as much confidence as a ABS Blade, will agree that any modern tyre single,dual,summer, winter, all rounder is a miracle of modern science IMO.
     
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  11. Jimbo Vills

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    well im not that old ;) but even in the last ten years tyre technology has just been incredible
     
  12. Scotty

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    Ride bike 160 miles per day 6 days a week.

    Advanced track day rider Knockhill and Croft

    50 miles Scottish B roads slug and Fettercairn the rest dual carriageway and town.

    PR4 is a very good tyre in the wet and offers great stability through deeper water. So much so I actually love riding in the rain and do a rain dance every evening, that's why it's always raining! always in goretex anyway. Lol

    I'm so impressed I'd do not worry about dry, wet or wear and just ride.

    Front end feel and grip is amazing. Never quite that sure with the Bridgestone.

    Rear lets you open the throttle letting the back squat giving good feel of grip. BT 003 would step out from cold PR4 letts you do it straight away.

    42 psi rear and 36 psi front.

    Getting less water thrown over my back,looking in the mirror the tyre leaves a wide dry trace on the road.

    £180 for the pair £20 for fitting.

    High speed turn and upright riding is very stable and give good braking feedback in the wet as well. I use only my rear brake and hard in the wet when I'm in the City and no front that C-ABS is brilliant, I'm loving it.

    Scalloping is evident to some extent on the front tyre. More than other tyres I've had fitted. I'm seeing it earlier with the PR4,might be with the extra syping I don't know.

    Wear is excellent

    Syping not sure if I've spelt the correctly does not go all the way to the edge on the rear so good for ridding in the dry fast and over so keeping that sporty edge.and stability.

    Have not tried a track day so no comment but I would do one with them if I had to, but would stick to a more track designed tyre but if your taking it easy no problem novice to intermediate , they may heat up to much for the fast boys n girls. It's a road tyre.

    This is the tyre I will always use.

    Well done Michelin.
     
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  13. Muffking

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    @And7rp2 Which bit do you disagree with, although bear in mind that I'm not as quick as some of you guys, so it takes me longer to heat them up, otherwise I'd be happy using my SC's on both bikes.
     
  14. Kentblade

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    Scotty, well in all my years I never thought I would here a Scotsman saying that he needed to do a rain dance to make it rain up north.......learn something new everyday.
     
  15. Kentblade

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    Jimbo, line crossed matey......ageism
     
  16. Jimbo Vills

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    my bad :(
     
  17. Kafka

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    I need to make a correction in my conclusion including the road conditions. In my case Portugal (Oporto) there about 3-4 months of raining and never snow. In this case i prefer the PR2.
    But in your case, England, i would prefer the PR4 due the better behavior in wet road.
     
  18. Stevie_d

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    Had 2 s20 's on the rear and can only manage 2,700 ish miles out of each of them. Dunno how anybody can get much more out of them. I'd have to ride very steady and change up at 3000 rpm in every gear to attempt getting 5k out of a rear
     

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