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Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by rab, Aug 23, 2015.

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should there be a rule on new riders buying litre machines

  1. or start off with under 500cc

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  1. rab

    rab Well-Known Member

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    well wat can i say headed up inveraray today and i can honestly say it wasnt the cars which were causing accidents it was the weekend riders coming round blind bends idiots taking buses on corners unbelievable im not the best rider on the road but im actually thinking of just doing track days more think it would be safer spoke to a guy today had the new r1 he was actually scared of it said he had it up to eighty just read eighty six year old biker killied on the road i was on today
     
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  2. Alblade

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    2 fatals today, A82 and other road closed for a time, but bikes. Area was in gridlock I heard with 'no way home' (could be over exaggeration) but didn't sound good.

    Police must be getting really fed up dealing with the aftermath, inquests, knocking on doors - explains the stance / approach police have given to bikers this year.
     
  3. rab

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    nightmare bud up there today so many clowns on bikes that were far too powerfull for them its going to get worse in time bikes are getting made more and more powerfull you can walk into a showroom and buy the latest beast if youve got the cash it all ends in disaster i seen it today
     
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    Yeah its safer and far more FUN on the track anyway :D
     
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  5. Alaska

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    Don't know what it is, very experienced riders taking risks on blind corners or over taking causing on coming traffic to make evasive manoeuvres. Some of me riding buds do it, tryed to discuss but no joy. Stopped riding with some folk, there's a time and place, within own limits.
    Let's have fun but get home in one piece
     
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  6. Scotty

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    Nothing to do with the power imho.
    Just riders who ride outwith their skill and road reading ability.
    There is a skill and understanding to fast road riding.
    How may people actuall understand what all the white lines mean for example.
    What side of the lane to be in for a left hander.
    Look at all the guys that exit a left on the incoming right hand lane.
    Overtake on a blind bend. All that power and they can't wait to overtake safely.
    Riding in groups in my view is not good for some people because they do not understand and get tunnel vision into keeping up uther than the ability to take everything in.
    Your ride should be smooth fast and controlled with no scary moments it should be fun.
    If not get properly trained in road reading and handling skills.
     
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  7. Blade048

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    Some people have more money than sense. Buying bikes that are way too powerful for their skill level. If that bloke was scared having only had it up to 80, why is he going out and buying an R1? Crazy. Accident waiting to happen.
     
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    Totally agree with scotty. I was witness to a bike vs car yesterday, I'll post about it later in the week, but 2 girls on a moped filtered past me & the 3 cars in front before twatting a car coming out from a side road.
    So why wasn't I filtering? Because I saw the the junction and asked myself, "What if?"......
     
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    Poor riding?




     
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    WTF.......probably as Scotty said group riding playing catchup fist full of front brake and boom, One lucky boy!
     
  11. Punisher5964

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    I don't think it comes down to power, I've got a blade after riding a few short months and i love it but I'm not an idiot, if it gets a bit too fast i slow down, if i don't know the corner i'd much rather take it nice and steady than pound it round and hope for the best.

    I also see far too many bikers over taking in places that make me cringe. its not the power of the bike its the idiot that's twisting the throttle.
     
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  12. Alaska

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    Hope the guys ok, a little bad judgement there
     
  13. rab

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    found out the old boy that was killed haldane was his name raced in the isle of man tt 15 times and was killed on his bike aged 86 on sunday rip sir
     
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    That's a shame but at 86 he died doing something he loved.

    Rip Haldane.
     
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  15. wilbert

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    My first 2 road bikes were 600's a ZX6R and a GSXR which I had for about 6 years in total and covered approx. 30000 miles. I then had a 8 year break from riding due to other commitments and then bought a RR5 blade back in Jan of this year. Some would say this was a stupid thing to do but I actually find it easier to ride than both the 600's and I give it much more respect too. Since passing my driving test at 17 and bike test at 24 I have always analysed my drive / ride and thought about what I am doing and how I could have done things different to improve journey. I have just done the IAM skills for life (well worth the £150 and not as boring as you would think) and very nearly got a perfect score and would have done had I not let my mind wander slightly in the last 5 minutes of the test due to being bored riding in 20's and 30's for too long. I doubt there could ever be laws put in place to stop people getting bigger bikes after passing their test but if someone doesn't know how to ride properly or have the skills to control their machine then I don’t think it would matter what they ride as they would still be a danger to themselves and others. I think the basic standards of training should be raised as learning by trial and error (like most of us will have done at some point) can be a very costly and dangerous method. I’m sure we have all done things that we look back at and think why on earth did I do that (not just ugly fat birds either!) but were lucky and got away with it (even the fat bird). There is a time and a place for everything and all riding should be done with a certain amount of restraint on the public roads. I still ride quick but rather than try to get my knee down on every bend I try and make my ride smooth and flowing by reading the road and positioning myself better. Quite often this approach leads to me going quicker but safer. Every time I go out I see examples of both good and bad riding and try and learn from it. It's a pity that some think just because they have passed a test they can ride like Rossi etc. and that they are invincible. I’m no expert but I want to keep raising my game so that I can continue to get enjoyment from riding and not become another statistic and road casualty. In short it’s not the bike that causes the accident it's the person riding it or the half blind car driver sending a text whilst scrolling through the on-board computer menu and shouting at the kids.
     
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  16. Sam Bird

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    I passed my test at 21, I had a GSXR400 waiting a home for me that i had bought in anticipation of passing my test, I had ridden bikes since i was about 10 over fields etc so had experience on Bikes, I rode that for about 6 Months then sold it for a GSXR600 SRAD, i had that for another 6 Months and Hated it so sold it and Got a GSXR750. I loved that bike and kept it for a year before getting a 929RR Blade. since then i've flittered between GSXR750's before getting my current Blade. I personally think my Journey from 400 to the 929RR made me appreciate the difference in power bikes have and has made me a better rider, I would say that when you pass your test you should only be allowed a certain BHP for the first year, the engine size shouldn't matter as i know my GSXR750 was more powerful than certain commuter style litre bikes at the time. then once you have been riding for a year that opens up so you can ride what you like, That 1st year on a bike is a huge learning curve and personally i think you learn much more on a smaller bike than you do on a 1000 as personally (Like already mentioned) a Litre bike is easier to ride as your not Balls out everywhere, but at the same time, They are leathal if not treated with respect.
     
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  17. Nickw

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    The problems come along when confidence outstrips competence...

    Oh, that mixed in with a bit of my Knob's bigger than your knob... Where people see others do it and think they can do the same.

    There are a lot of very competent, quick riders about, but then there are those that 'think' they're quick riders and try and keep up, and then there's the awful ones...

    The quick riders are the ones who never really brag about it... Just ride and enjoy the craic.:)
     
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  18. Lozzy

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    Totally agree me dear.....there's none a that ' my foo foo's bigger than your foo foo ' with us ladies & that's why we don't end up in hedge bottoms :D
     
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  19. Voleracing

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    Surely you mean my foo foo smaller? No one likes a bucket foo foo :)
     
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  20. Still at it

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    Trouble is lots of riders lay there bike up over winter then jump strait on it come summer and not spending enough time adjusting to riding again. I don't ride over the winter but I do take out the motocross bike I have just to keep my hand in.
     

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