How long do you guys think it takes to get your tyres up to temperature? i usually go out and have a steady ride around for 20 minutes before i start building speed. I have no idea at what point are my tyres starting to increase grip, 5 minutes, 30 minutes? whats peoples opinions? TIA
As above really. I get on and ride, I dont hit corners hard for the first 5-10 mins but that is due to not having any decent corners to play on for the first 5 mins of my journey when I go out to play. I wouldnt get on the bike and try and get my knee down on tge first corner I come too, but 5 mins is more than enough for me. Just get off after 5 mins and feel how hot they are and you'll soon forget about 20 min warm ups
I was hoping you guys might say that, i think because its my pride and joy and its immaculate i worry more than i should about coming off. sounds like I'm being way too cautious.
Depends on lots and lots of things. if you have sports tyres or touring tyres may make a difference. how you ride. Where your riding, Town or fast A roads, weather and temperature. Tyre pressure. by the time I get out of my house and onto some fun roads I feel my tyres are up to temp. Much like on track. if you don't use warmers you need a lap or 2 to get them working well as my mates do, But when I use warmers i'm going out fast straight out of the box. And make sure my mates don't try to do what I may be able to do on the first lap. So no real answer to your question really. I would personally put it down to how you feel and when you feel you can push that little more and are confidant
I should of said really, I'm on sports tyres and riding A & B roads, its from doing a track day without tyre warmers that i understand what a huge difference there is between warm and cold tyres, maybe that's why I'm a little cautious.
if you love right on a A & B road then give it 5-10 mins but if you have to travel to get to your favorite A&B road then you should be getting their by the time to get to enjoy the roads
#I do have to travel about 10 mins to get there so i guess i should be fine. Thanks guys, that's put my mind at ease a bit more.
A lot depends on what you've done in that 10 minutes. If you've crawled along in traffic or had it bolt upright then you will still need to warm them by increasing your lean angle a bit at a time. If you just chuck it on its side the first time you come to a bend you may find the side of the tyre is still cold.
Apparently the quickest warm up is achieved by braking and accelerating (whilst straight!) not by weaving around. Might want to warm the engine up first tho!
Perhaps in F1 where the heat of the brakes radiate into the wheel and then into the tyre but wouldn't want to rely on that happening on a bike. But even in F1 the drivers still weave despite all the "evidence" that it supposedly doesn't work.
I can't find the source I was reading (as always!), but supposedly an f1 tyre is formed laterally so weaving helps, where a moto tyre is formed such that front back friction has the same effect. Could all be bs of course, but you'll still see me grabbing the brakes a bit in the siting lap just in case!
I suspect the idea is that you put forces into the tyre to warm the rubber by accelerating and braking as you no doubt do whilst cornering, obviously it is not much use on the sides tho! Personally I just go out and ride. On the roads I reckon it's not of much consequence, a track however may be a different matter.
Found it... http://www.sportrider.com/how-to-properly-warm-your-tires Certainly wouldn't worry too much on the road. Just take it easy for 10 mins or so. Was behind a spill at brands yesterday where a guy just bezzed it at the session start - he made it as far as Druids (2nd corner). Not sure if he'd had tyre warmers on prior to the five minute pit wait, but it goes to show that it always pays to gently work up to full-on cornering.
Not if you haven't been rear ended first! Grabbing the brakes on a track bike wouldn't be my idea of a good idea on siting laps.... Particularly as some folk go out the blocks full chat.... And won't be expecting someone to slam on the anchors I personally, out of warmers will go pretty much full pace (and have done flat out racing on brand new 1 lap tyres), takes while to get head round it but racing forces you out the comfort zones.... As for weaving, think that's more a reassurance thing, to 'feel' if or like the tyres are warm.... Or at least know you been on that part of the tyre! Head game really and yes we all do it. As for road, common sense really, depends on tyres, roads you been on, conditions etc etc etc.... Build up and get a feel for how they feel.....
This makes the most sense to me. It's friction that generates the heat in the rubber after all. I usually find 5-10 minutes of steady riding is enough to get up to temperature. Although I'm finding my Birdgestone S20R's take longer to get the heat in than my previous Dunlop GP211's did.
When I had my 2001 R1 it had D207's on it and when I got about 2-3 miles away from home you could feel where the tyre was starting to work.It was weird! It went from moving around to stable and it was noticeable.
