eC-ABS VS C-ABS

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  1. tazmania_1981

    tazmania_1981 Active Member

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    HI Guys

    just wanted to share really my opinion here
    i as fortunate enough or stupid enough to have 2 new bikes 1st in 2013 and other one end of 2015

    c- abs was on 2013 and i had few situations where the abs acted funny and let the bike roll a bit extra where i did not want it
    on track same issue you can not enjoy the track properly really specially if you have ever experience what i am talking about you slam on your breaks and abs kicks in and take the presure of thinkin whatever it is thinking so you feel like you are not in control

    but my latest blade has the system called eC-ABS and it has been great 4000 miles since bought it and ride it as hard as i can really in all weather conditions the new system never let me down yet only problem i had in the beginning was to get used to level play when u go over 4 mpg u have good firm level but once u stop and if you let the lever out than pull in again it travel way more to the bars than going over 4mpg


    i am not experienced as most of you but ride my bike every day everywhere and to end it
    i was really not sure if i should go for a abs model as i wanted bike to act good on track and this new abs system seems like problem sorted

    i am sure there must be some 2014 + blade owner out the equiped with ec abs and i welcome your feedback .
     
  2. Slick

    Slick Elite Member

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    AFAIK the ABS systems on all blades/600rr are the same ie eC-ABS, maybe updated firmware on the ECU but essentially no change in the hard ware(bar the SP of course) This system is always active and fly by wire, the ECU picks up a number of parameters, the pressure you are inputting into the levers, wheel speed etc and 'decides' how much actual force should be applied front and back.

    Other models have C-ABS the traditional system which only activates on lock. The front and back are linked hydraulically.
     
  3. Dave dunlop

    Dave dunlop Elite Member

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    Yes I think most people have experienced some issues with the system at some point, I ran mine for a season of hard road riding and some track days, only ever had around 4 issues when trailing the brake when the brake lever comes a little further back to the bar! But that's enough to completely knock your confidence in the system and its ability to work flawlessly! I never liked the feeling at the lever and as much as the brakes were powerful and had plenty of stopping force they always felt a little vague! I also can't be doing with having the hassle of bleeding the system in what seems a massive pain in the arse!! Any competent person should be able to bleed there own brakes without any fuss! It was an easy option for me as over the winter I completely removed the whole system and upgraded to Brembo Callipers T drive discs and a RCS master cylinder and new hoses. I now have a awesome setup that will cope with the most demanding situations and feel completely 100% confident that they will do the job there supposed to do!... Plus over the winter I wanted to put the bike on a massive diet and removing the ABS saved me a massive 11kg!!! ... So it was like killing two birds with one stone!!
     
  4. SpeedoX

    SpeedoX Active Member

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    Out of curiosity, does anyone know if it is legal to run a bike with the ABS system replaced by a non-ABS and how this is dealt with by insurance companies?
     
  5. Dave dunlop

    Dave dunlop Elite Member

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    The system is completely independent so once removed it just becomes a Non ABS blade! The difference in the cost of insurance is minimal, I think it was an extra £26! .... Small price to pay if I'm honest and the cost far outweigh ABS bleeding or any issues you might end up with by keeping the system...
     
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  6. Slick

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    Thats useful info, mine may come out soon.
     
  7. derchef

    derchef Well-Known Member

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    yep different firmware , some parts of modulators are different
    that s all
    c-abs , mean combined brale system/abs like vfr 1200 or cb1000r or nc700 family or old vfr 800
    on newest bikes honda stop to use combined system
    as new cb500-vfr800-nc750
     

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