Petrol Sir ?

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  1. Nigelg79

    Nigelg79 Active Member

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    So what's the best oil then....? :rolleyes:
     
  2. RepsolPaul

    RepsolPaul Well-Known Member

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    The're all the same mate, all come from the same place ! All same grade and quality !!

    It's all just a conspiracy!!

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  3. Stevie_d

    Stevie_d Senior Member

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    so no hard data on which fuel to use in a bike and what effect it has on performance or engine wear etc ?
     
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    I'm going to give a months worth of 'Super' diesel a go in the car, and see if I notice any difference in that, compared to Asda where I normally go. Then, from there I'll give Unleaded a go in the bike, for comparison.
     
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  6. BoroRich

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    From what I understand petrol is just petrol. It all comes from the same refineries. The only difference between brands are the additives.

    I personally think there's a lot of snake oil psychology when it comes to petrol. It's a bit like HDMI cables. It does make me laugh when I see the high quality expensive HDMI cables in Currys or wherever. They're not like the old audio jack cables which were handling an analogue signal and would be affected by poorer quality materials. HDMI cables transport a digital signal. It's 1s and 0s. The signal either arrives or it doesn't. If it doesn't the device doesn't work. If it does....it does.

    Doesn't stop people forking over money for "high quality" cables.

    When it comes to petrol it might make a bit of difference but it's probably not that huge.

    That having been said, what does it cost for the more expensive stuff?? £1.50 extra on a tank?? You'll spend more than that on a coffee, more than likely.
     
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  7. DCB

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    Agreed, but will anyone believe you? Lol
     
  8. lexathon

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    My TV definitely gets better mileage on expensive hdmi cables.
     
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  9. And7rp2

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    All the fuel supplied to the IOM is high octane from the Essar refinery in Ellesmere port, how they get away with selling different grades is a bit shocking but trust me that's what they get so don't buy the high octane and pay more for it !!!
     
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    I believe. Been using supermarket fuel for as long as I can remember and most expensive hdmi cable I've got is a fiver:)
     
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  11. Marion

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    I have been told from a very reliable source that the only unleaded fuel for sale on IOM is super unleaded. Which means same in both pumps !,
     
  12. Stevie_d

    Stevie_d Senior Member

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    Surely that's illegal , if your paying more money for high octane !!!!!
     
  13. Marion

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    Just means your getting a better deal buying normal
     
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  14. Kentblade

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    Rather that than some of the cat meat I have tasted in some Indian restaurants around London on a Friday night
     
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    There are differences in the additives with supermarket vs branded fuels, even if minor. Will your bike run on supermarket fuel quite happily? Yes of course, but I only resort to that if there are no branded stations about. For the sake of a few pennies difference for a tank of fuel from either, treat the bike every time as over time it may make a small difference.

    Many years ago my gsxr600 wasn't running properly at the high revs under load, and after new spark plugs, k n filter vs standard, end can vs standard, oil and filter change it still wasn't right, It was a friend who was a racer at the time said what fuel was I using, and it was a leading supermarkets fuel, he then said try shell, I did and after running the old fuel out it went back to how it was from when I bought it. Since then, all my bikes get branded fuel unless no other choice.
     
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    I run a petrol station as part of my job and can tell you that supermarket fuel doesn't have the same additives in it that branded fuels do.
     
  17. lexathon

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    No, but all fuels meet additives standards.

    Oil companies do the same thing as laundry detergent companies in trying to convince you that their fuel will get your engine whiter than white through fancy advertising.

    So little of the claims are ever scientifically proven - just note how little information they give you on BP ultimate's latest claim of 21 extra miles... No indication of what the comparison fuel was on any of their marketing. I would wager they're testing it against fuel with no additives at all - something you as a consumer cannot buy.
     
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  19. lexathon

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    Yes, exactly. Where does it tell you what fuel was used to make the cars 'dirty'?

    All it says is RON95, which only points to the octane level of the fuel.

    It is entirely possible that they used RON95 with no additives for 6000 miles, after which I'd bet you'd see an improvement in mileage from any forecourt fuel.
     
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  20. RepsolPaul

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    Best thing to do is to keep saving your pennies on each fill up and enjoy.
    I'd rather waste my pennies per tank on fuel I know and trust and have seen on my Car rolling road give improvements.
    I have had dealing with cars running rough, even if the wife uses and fills up one of the cars I can guess she's put cheaper fuel in if she's been low or in a rush and not put better fuel in.

    And I've got better miles using quality fuels, which I've notice on long trips to Scotland and to Italy also, so not really false economy, not that economy has been ever important to me, and before people say I've got money to waste, I haven't got a pot to piss in, I just enjoy myself and buy nice things and try and look after them.

    You can take a horse to water.
     
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