Fireblade C-ABS Problem Thread C-ABS owners please look here.

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by Pete1987, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. Scotty

    Scotty New Member

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    What you dribbling on about, where do you think I ride the fuckin moon, muppet.
    You are not paying attention.
    Use the back brake instead of feathering the front.
    That leaves the front for any unforeseen events like someone steeping out in front of you haha but if you position yourself where you can see and watch the right clues you could minimise your events for example position of car wheels, junction prediction and probability. I'm just grateful I have lots of open road with nobody else on them.

    I can see where this leads with some people but I'd you a willing to try what I say then hopefully you will enjoy yer bike if not jog on and do yer thing.
    I do what I do and it's working.
     
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  2. trueuk

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    fair play to ya scotty. so much bs posted on this forum regarding the abs blade.fuckin experts my arse.
     
  3. Billalrebhan

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    Just say what you feel mate:):):):):D
     
  4. Darren169

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    Hi, new to the forum, i've a 2016 sp blade with the C-ABS system and asspciated issues. Its been back to honda 3 times now and tomorrow will be the fourth. Last time they bled the system six times and replaced the discs. This is the right hand disc, less than a thousand miles on it and this is how it looks after only two days of this fault re-occouring.

    Same as everyone else. Lever spongy most of the time and in low speed filtering or yesterday at high speed brake lever hits the bar, ABS light flashes and returns to normal after turning the ignition off and on again.
     

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  5. travellingkiwi

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    The thing that annoys me most of the assumption that when it fucks up and the lever hits the bar, the arse that designed it seems to think you always have time to let go, wait a moment and then grab (slowly) the lever... When some dickhead pulls out in front of you when filtering you rarely have time for a second go.
     
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  6. Wozza

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    I have been lucky with mine a 2014 abs model....had it from new ....if it ever does happen it will be gone and traded in .....
     
  7. Slick

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    I put a lot of time trying to sort out my ABS, all of the above including a failure on the super fast back straight at Bedford Aerodrome - cables were laid that day!!.

    My theory ( and it's just that so dont shoot me!) is that many issues are caused by retracted pistons ie the seals gripping and pulling the pistons back into the calliper. Under normal use you will feel this as extra travel and sponginess. I reckon occasionally the pump is unable to deal with the extra travel and making pressure in the required time triggering 'failsafe mode'.
     
  8. HRCTrev09

    HRCTrev09 Well-Known Member

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    Whip the lot out and get yourself some braided lines ;)
     
  9. RC45

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    Any word if 2017 models are plagued with this ABS issue?
     
  10. Ian E

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    2017 models don't use Honda Combined ABS, they use the well proven Bosch system
     
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  11. Kevin1

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    No abs reported, just dodgy throttle response.
     
  12. Slick

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    yes my 16 has been faultless but the minute it does removal or bye bye bike
     
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  14. sinewave

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    Until Honda use the tried n tested Bosch system used by other manufacturers then I'll never have another Honda myself.

    It aint funny one jot when it fails on you! :rolleyes:
     
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  15. blusta

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    Am having a rant because I'm not happy.
    I've had two 08 blades both non abs and loved em, both inspired confidence to put the hammer down and just enjoy the pleasure of riding, but recently I've bought an abs model and have found that the feel of the lever is not consistent, one minute it's nice and stiff with a short throw and the next the feel changes to a longer throw and softer. I must admit I'm really not liking it at all and it does not inspire any confidence as it just plays with my head which you really don't need when riding, I have read loads and loads of shite about the issue such as air in the system or you have to bleed the system every blah blah, or that the modulator suffers from heat exposure due to positioning between engine and exhuast, and that you need to change the modulator, really for £1500 jpg a piss take, and that you can never really bleed the system properly unless you do it seven million times, come on does this not spell out that there is a fecking blatant issue, and no matter which path you choose to take it all spells £££ with no absolute guarantee of a resolution, sad so sad!

    I have always loved Honda machines but to be honest 'the big H' really don't look after their customers, something I have seriouly experienced at a main dealer (complete w##kers!) and so have friends of mine. And after experiencing the lever feel I am really struggling to justify to myself a reason to keep this bike for one real reason and that's safety, what if one day I need the brakes and thier not there, scary shite man, all of which is so disappointing and such a shame as I love the blade alwys have done but what do you do, you can't have issues in your head when riding, so have been considering leaving honda behind and venturing else where, maybe S1000RR looks like a good move....

    Peace fellow bladers.
     
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  16. Kevin1

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    As you have seen the lengthy thread on here about the ABS issue. Why on earth did you buy a (I'm assuming a pre 2017) ABS Fireblade????
     
  17. nigelrb

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    Fair call, Kevin, but easy to say after the event.

    From my experience, and after reading many comments on this forum, it seems that members generally join AFTER buying their bike. Sure, there are those sitting on the fence, deliberating over what type of bike to buy, but in the main, we know what we want and just go and buy it.

    I certainly had no idea of ABS issues when I purchased my 2011. In fact, I am deeply ashamed to admit that I didn't even know it DIDN'T have ABS until a few weeks after riding it. I was looking for the damn ABS light on the dash!:rolleyes: (I naively thought ABS was standard on all 2011s)

    I would hate to be in @blusta 's position; having purchased a dream bike and then finding safety-related faults. He has echoed many members' comments in that Honda and its dealers seem to fob off customers who report ABS issues. There is too much evidence of these problems for Honda to ignore, yet, the company seems to continually bury its head in the sand over the issue. That is shameful. It is more shameful that Honda continues to lose clientele to other marques over the continued trauma and disappointment of the pre-2017 ABS issue.
     
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  18. Lozzy

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    Some folks still buy em even after its been kindly pointed out to them....

    don't they.........

    you naughty Chief Troll @Barstewardsquad

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  19. Barstewardsquad

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    I ain't saying nuffink coppa!!! :cool:

    Honda's mishandling of this was a large contributor to me buying a different manufacturers product.
     
  20. bonjo

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    seeing this makes me feel stronger about my buying policy: I avoid buying the latest until it has been around for a couple of years. Having said that, I bought my RR8 late 2008 (because I thought EU might restrict max power to 100bhp as it is in france) but at it turned out, I decided against ABS on the ground of higher price, 10kg weight penalty, untested system and finally none of my exciting riding moments resulting of change in underwear were due to brakes locking prior to that and since.
    I think riding technique and forward planning is a key element to help use brakes properly; front or back.

    Having said that if the system misbehaves outside extreme use; then something is wrong. I am surprised the problem has gone on for so long woth no final solution from honda unlike the excessive oil consumption on some engines 2008> (although mine never had the problem).

    I guess with all the electronics in the mix to add to unreliability or bug fixing, it has become important to do some research before buying the next shiny metal.

    PS I read people having concern with all the rider's aids on the 2017> when it comes to modification:rolleyes: it never ends
     

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