I thought it was a wallet full of dollars you owe me!? Haha. No mate, I wouldn't take any money off you for that. I was very confident though I will say that.
Look at the torque figure not just bhp.....what the brand needs is better succuess at the TT again BSB I think with better riders next year I know miles away from the road bike but the damage got done when the tea drinker and the and mcpint got spat off on a bike far away from road spec but did effect sales.....the 1299 was the dogs dangles when it come out and took 5yrs to get it to handle on track my sp is a keeper for now,,,
Just got off zee phone wiss zee Germans..They have me on the test ride list when they get confirmation of showroom arrival. Also found out as an instructor, I get a fairly good discount on the bike!
As a very happy owner of a 2018 SP2 I am a little relieved (sorry guys) that my underpowered (btw I really don't feel that it is) stays in production for another year. I feel the electronics upgrade to be significant however (as one can better adjust the electronic intrusion) and I just wonder if the 2019 upgrade can be retrofitted to our 2017/8 models?
This is new territory for us all. I would wonder if the new 'standard' electronics would be compatible with the SP2s? I have read of a new facility on the dash ('W' for wheelie control I think it was) so that would mean a new dash and loom alterations.
A little more info here. https://auto.ndtv.com/news/eicma-2018-honda-cbr1000rr-updated-for-2019-1944109 Apologies if its already in here.
Sounds to me like something Honda should have done on the quiet. Don't think I'd like the sound of that if I had a 2017 bike. Looks almost like an admission of the throttle by wire/traction control system being sub par. Throttle connection is a pretty fundamental change to be making on a 2 year old bike. Hope for owners sake it's backwards compatible.
There's nothing wrong on my sp throttle response spot on....how often on the road does the TC come on ....this is more to get the race bikes up to spec...
Well there's certainly been enough murmurings of throttle problems on the road bike from folk on here and magazine reviews. Hopefully this will finally put the issue to bed.
I, perhaps, have been a leader in these murmurings because I have oft' repeated my views of dissatisfaction over the throttle response in the form of a minor delay, with the throttle-by-wire system as opposed to the traditional cable. On reflection, I should possibly not have inferred it as a 'problem' but as a trait of which I did not readily adapt to on the (then) new 2018 bike. I am at home with the throttle now, but do still wish it was as reactive as my RR4 and RRB. However, this is something which is perhaps more noticeable when swapping from one bike to another than for one who does heaps of miles on primarily one bike.
.....the problem is a lot of these bikes have restriction and such engineered in as the manufacturers think people can't cope. Maybe not so much on a full sport machine like the Blade, but I spoke to my local dyno centre regarding carrying out an FTECU remap and apparently the MT10 in standard form can only dial in 48% throttle in top gear and various other things like removing injector decel cut off to reduce engine braking, removing the gear based TRE/speed restriction, shutting off AIS without fitting block off plates and optimising timing maps for higher octane fuel. Maybe as the Blade is fly by wire it is only a software based thing?
My Honda dealer claims that there's no means of adjusting, electronically or otherwise, throttle play or response on my 2018. Given that this is new technology for Honda, I am not convinced that the dealer would be totally up to date with such refinements. Perhaps through an accredited Dyno Performance Centre there would be a different response.
I had my 2017's ecu remapped by BSD Performance. Mark claimed to have mapped power mode 4 to a 1:1 throttle response. I haven't tried it but he certainly believes it is possible.
Exactly, a fly by wire throttle is just a potentiometer essentially so with any pot and a software based control system you can apply a linear scaled output and make it do what you want. Obviously I cannot confirm this but it stands to reason. Maybe speak to someone like James at JHS or Mark as BSD.
