PCV Custom map and O2 sensor eliminator

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  1. damodici

    damodici Active Member

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    Wooop!

    PCV finally turned up today, just downloaded the PCV software and it seems to be working (its a 2nd hand unit) although i cant find anything that tests the unit, the green power light is flashing so thats something

    Connects ok, shows the following info which i assume is what map is currently loaded:

    2008 Honda CBR1000RR European model
    Leo vince slip-on exhaust with baffle
    Stock or aftermarket air filter
    Dynojet o2 eliminator fitted

    Just updated the firmware to latest edition found here - http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/downloads/powercommander_downloads.aspx?ProdType=PCV


    Anyway, i dont have the o2 eliminator (assuming its meant to be a loose plug and not one of them thats already connected) so need to get one, i cant find my bookmarks as i remember trawling the net before and finding a couple of places who sell them, can anybody save me the pain if they already know as ill need that wont it?

    Also, i remember somebody having a custom map set up they had done with a Yoshi R77, or did i dream that?

    If so can i get that sent over so i can run that when i try and do the install prior to taking it over to Bruce&Trig at JT developments

    BRING ME SUNSHINE AND DRY ROADS
     
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  2. dan.1moore1

    dan.1moore1 Senior Member

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    Mogsy Kindly gave me his map .. Loads better than the map on the CD

    You can order an eliminator from dynojet , all you need to do is quote your serial number on the PCV
     
  3. Chem600

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    There some on ebay for about £19, look the same as the one i have on my bike. Did you find much of a change to the bike with the cd maps loaded?
     
  4. Mogsy

    Mogsy Active Member

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    I used a resister bought from maplin for 10 pence, a 330 ohm, just bend the metal prongs, fit into the RCU side of the connector and Roberts your mothers brother, I do have a fantastic map as Dan says, pm me, all I ask is if you like it a small paypal donation to contribute towards my outlay ;-)
     
  5. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    No map from another bike is 100%, maybe at best 90% you may as well just load any map that is close to your config then get the dyno run asap.. I would not bother with someone else's map for that reason.. tbh if your not going to custome map a bike then why bother with a pc at all.. dont take me wrong just saying my op... Damo knows all this anyway but just thought I would speak my mind...lol

    One other thing and no offence but people say I have an awsome map...and they prob do for the bike it was mapped on but how would anyone ever know where it is with out running it up...?

    I have around 300 maps on my workshop pc.. all cust dynos and none even the same setups are the same..
     
  6. Mogsy

    Mogsy Active Member

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    I agree, but not everyone can afford £150 on dyno, a custom map on a bike with identical mods is much better than a generic one, ask Dan
    Just my opinion
     
  7. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Yeah I know what your saying.. as a dealer for dynojet I have to argue the cause...lol

    All I will say is sometimes with a 11,000.00 bike it seems a shame to quit 150.00 from the end..
     
  8. Mogsy

    Mogsy Active Member

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    Fair enough mate and I know what you're saying, but I'm sure you like me can feel when the bikes running right
     
  9. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Lol, yes mate... :) but a lean motor also feels crisp and clean but can run hot etc etc... I dont help much do I.... ;)
     
  10. Speedytwin

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    I tried a few maps on my SP1 from DYNOJET's web site but they had no Ethos cans listed so I tried some other set up and Jesus sOme of them where savage fast but the plugs where whiter than White. Map in there now and a lot smother and a lot safer. As said by aurther 10 11k worth of a bik and your going to scrimp on £150 do it once and do it right.
     
  11. Si.

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    I've got my pcv in the box, waitin to be fitted tomorrow hopefully. I will take it to Motrac to get a custom map on ASAP as it does make a difference. The one thing I don't want is the bike to use a shit load of fuel once it's mapped, as my old Daytona did when I had it custom mapped.
     
  12. bongo

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    Si if you are on the Wirral mate i can't recommend Pete Alton at OTC in Widnes. It's not a job to him, it's an absolute passion and you'll realise this if you meet him within a couple of minutes. OCD in a good way, he won't move onto the next100rpm until the one he's on is perfect. I had over 70 dyno runs in the day i had my R6 mapped. He spent 8 hours on my last bike mapping it. Got my R6 from 112bhp with 42lb/ft torque to 125.98 and 47.9lb/ft. Then asked me to £80. I gave him more. Anyone that sees him won't go elsewhere. Motrac are also great, but Pete is the man!

    Like you say, a proper map is so much better than a download. Two identical bikes will totally different maps, as they never run the same, and it's those tiny differences a custom map will perfect, fuelling the bike every 100rpm throughout the rev range. A downloaded map just can't cater for this.


    Bongo
     
  13. dan.1moore1

    dan.1moore1 Senior Member

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    Mine deffo feels idles better with a borrowed map . Im still getting it set up before she is back on the road thou . Only problem is my local Dynojet mapping place ( M&P's ) burnt down last year so i have an hour trek up to R.E.P.S in Newport so just gotta get there and do it when i get chance
     
  14. Mogsy

    Mogsy Active Member

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    Hey i agree it's better to get your bike custom mapped, however all I'm saying is a custom map from a bike with the same set up is better than a generic dynojet map, especially one from a good tuner.
    Do we really think aswell that mr Honda tunes every bike individually ?
     
  15. dan.1moore1

    dan.1moore1 Senior Member

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    My bike idles loads better with your map compared to the dynojet map
     
  16. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Some maps appear to be better than others, my point is only to educate those that may have questions about generic maps, I agree that a map from a bike with matching setup is properly a better match than one say from a bike that has a full system over just an end can. But my big point is how would you know if say the bike that was mapped was over fueling in the upper rev range, then the Dyno opp will have leaned that bike right off! You then are left with a map that now leans your already lean bike off even more (for example), as said to the point of white plugs and smelt hot piston crowns.. Have you looked at the maps your running to see what numbers are being used in the upper and mid for example you may find some -45's as I have seen in the past..!!!... most people I know that use someone else's map have no idea how the fuel table even works and when you think that 10tps settings for each 250rpm on PCV thats a lot of room for error! Hence why I though I would raise the topic.. :D That and I like a good debate...lol The generic maps on DynoJets site have been closely examined for this very reason, they are not just copy's of maps from bikes that were mapped on the Dyno, they have been corrected in a way that even if out they fall within a given range, a safety net in case of the situation I have just described should arise... Its much the same safety new as Autotune, it has a safety net of 20% worth of correction for automatic mapping you can change it should you need but a good understanding of AFR is recommended if you do and tbh Autotune is not fully automatic like some people think however its not far off when used with a custom base map.. :)
     
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  17. dan.1moore1

    dan.1moore1 Senior Member

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    Like Arthur said earlier , 11 grand bike has got to be worthy of a 150 quid Dyno Sesh .
     
  18. bongo

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    100% agree. No two bikes are the same. People spend hundreds on the kit and then comprimise it's use by skimping with setup. £150 is also more expensive than it is if you go tot he right place too. OTC in Widnes like i said above. TT Sidecar racer, proper engine builder and tuner, and OCD dyno worker, Pete Alton charges little money for hands down the best service i have ever had in motorbiking.
     
  19. Si.

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    I fitted the pipercross filter this morning, and was going to take the bike to Motrac for the PCV fitment and custom map. I ran out of time, so the bike is booked in next Monday for the PCV fitting and I've asked for 2 maps, a leaner one for touring and a full blown one for other times. I'll keep you updated and get a video of him mapping the bike, and also one of the fitting of the pcv.
    I'm not really wanting more power, but for me, smoothness is my goal and a nice steady curve on the graph.
     
  20. mal

    mal Active Member

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    hello how much extra is it on the insurance,when you fit a PCV on the blade,i put a K & N,different exhaust full system,PCV with autotune,that was an extra £42.00.on my last bike.
     

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