Huh? So how? Is there a download into the 2017 -18 ECUs, because we don't have the 'W' feature on our dashes.
The forum always welcomes fresh and updated information but might I ask just how good is your information? The screens are NOT the same. I have an SP2 and produce a dash shot below. The 'W' feature (not on 2017 -18 dashes as mentioned) is for the proposed 'anti-wheelie' control which 2017 - 18s don't have. My query is whether the ECU can import that new information AND whether it is necessary to fit a new dash to accept the revised programming? A few SP owners have asked if these new features can be made retrospective or added to their current bikes, but no definitive information has been forthcoming. Do you have an authoritative source?
You're at no disadvantage, Des. I have said before that for a road-only user, much of the electronic wizardry is superfluous. Sure, some might appreciate the difference between different riding modes, especially for a commute, but for me, riding in mainly rural territory, once it's set it stays!! The point of the 2019 revisions though, is that Honda states that some throttle smoothing out has been done through the ECU, along with the aforementioned 'wheelie control'. Again, this is only of use to 'aggressive' riding, however, the question remains as to whether it can be transplanted into earlier versions. Stick with your tried and trusted SP2s - all managed by rider input only!!
All seems quite feasible to me that it could be done with software/firmware meaning that it will be backward compatible for the 17's and 18's. But as Nigel said.... its guess work at the minute. Also Honda have said the ride-by-wire throttle motor is faster, so the throttle plates react quicker to inputs on the 2019 fireblade. That might also be software, doesn't necessarily mean it's a different motor. Fingers crossed for everyone it's a trip to the dealer for a simple update. Quite surprised you haven't got all the info on this Nigel, thought you might have called Honda.
Fair and worthy point, Charlie. Because my SP is 'hibernating' I hadn't even thought of querying these proposed alleged improvements. I will latch on to that today and update accordingly.
Please be nice to me @Lozzy. It's because of people like yourself that I HAD to buy the MV and aprilia just so I don't be seen as a one-eyed Honda supporter - 'not that there's anything wrong with that' as Jerry Seinfeld would say! I have made a few enquiries to Honda Customer Service and have, each time, received excellent service and feedback. I know my experiences aren't shared by those embroiled in the ABS 'debacle', but for me I can not complain. On the other note, I have doubts that any improvements to the 2019 model would be backwards compatible, but in the current climate of computer technology, it really should be not so difficult.
Late this afternoon I received an email from Honda UK in a rather 'curt' manner compared to the usual previous service I receive. It might be that @Lozzy was correct after all - they've had too much of me. Here's the reply: 'Thank you for your recent e-mail to our offices. [I didn't email, I phoned. An inter-office email followed my call] I can see from the enquiry that you are looking to find out if you can obtain electronic updates for this machine. I have discussed the matter with our technical support team who have advised that there are no electronic updates available for this machine. I hope that this answers your question for you and thank you for taking the time to contact Honda (UK). Kind Regards' [etc] But I didn't let it rest there. I've followed up with the question: 'Given that there are no updates "available" does that actually mean they do exist but are just not yet released for public consumption, OR, that they have not been manufactured with 'backwards compatibility'? If the latter is the case, can I purchase the 2019 ECU (through my local dealer of course) and will the dealer have the necessary expertise to install and re-program said ECU for my 2018 ('J) model CBR 1000RR SP2 as recorded on your data base?' Not holding up too much (or any) hope for this one!
Ermm, don't like the sound of that much. Certainly doesn't sound like "we're hopeful it will be backward compatible just give us a while to figure it out"
True, but I am making a point with Honda. Plus, the 2019 ECU has the new 'Wheelie Control' (which doesn't interest me one bit) but these revisions have been touted by Honda as an improvement to the bike and to RECTIFY some throttle issues on the earlier models. It is therefore (to a pedant like me) worthwhile making a challenge over this because if a product (of any type) has necessitated engineering to 'rectify and improve' a certain component, then (to me) it is reasonable that those same improvements be made available to those with the same product BEFORE revision. A bit of 'high horse' parading here, I know, but an issue that is worthwhile pursuing.
