brake bleeding 2017 abs

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by keithg1748, Mar 17, 2019.

  1. keithg1748

    keithg1748 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2013
    Messages:
    934
    Likes Received:
    154
    morning all I was just wondering if anybody has changed the brake lines on these bikes as I fancy changing mine but I ive heard they are a nightmare and a garage job to bleed these brakes . so any info would be great .
     
  2. nigelrb

    nigelrb Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2017
    Messages:
    9,804
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Ooh, I wouldn't do it, but I'll be interested to see how this thread develops.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Lozzy

    Lozzy God Like

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2015
    Messages:
    10,229
    Likes Received:
    5,295
    Agree....it'll be interesting

    When the new blades came out I asked the Honda dealer if the change back to the bosch system away from the nightmare old Honda abs would result in an easier bleed taking less time and the reply was...
    they didn't think so :rolleyes:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. nigelrb

    nigelrb Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2017
    Messages:
    9,804
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Which actually means: 'We haven't a clue.' :);)
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. CharlieR85

    CharlieR85 Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,239
    Likes Received:
    1,004
    On a BMW with bosch ABS you need a diagnostic tool that allows you to fire the abs pump to do it properly.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. keithg1748

    keithg1748 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2013
    Messages:
    934
    Likes Received:
    154
    if that's the case I think ill live with the standard hoses , lol
    , post: 486400, member: 6225"]Ooh, I wouldn't do it, but I'll be interested to see how this thread develops.[/QUOTE]
     
  7. CharlieR85

    CharlieR85 Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,239
    Likes Received:
    1,004
    The diagnostic tool for the BMW s1000's is fantastic. It's called Gs911. . you can do all sorts with it. Read and reset fault codes, reset the service counter, operate fuel pump, abs pump, operate valves, read sensor values. Really is fantastic, wouldn't be without it.

    I imagine bleeding the new blade would need the pump firing aswell to ensure you haven't got air trapped in that part of the system.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Wevsky

    Wevsky New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2018
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    2
    The older abs system was up to 6 hours im told,partly due to one of the bleed points involving the headers off,im reliably informed this new bosch system is 2.5-3 hours max and i see no reason why the lines cant be changed along the way,bike has to be put in certain modes and a system of steps followed,if done wrong it is start again
     
  9. Lozzy

    Lozzy God Like

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2015
    Messages:
    10,229
    Likes Received:
    5,295
    The old abs used to be about 6 but then over the years they got it down to about 3. Still a lot of money if you're having to pay Mr Honda for the fluid change
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. Wevsky

    Wevsky New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2018
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    2
    The dealer i got my bike from i took it in for its first annual service and at £78 an hour labour it wont be cheap,i will be using a independent garage who happens to be honda trained and a lot easier on the pocket
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. icedmind

    icedmind Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2017
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    49
    I've changed my master cylinder to RCS19, it bleeds as normal but took forever to get the micro bubbles out to make it feel good, I guess it would be better if a vacuum bleeder was used.
    Service manual said bleed as normal btw.
     
  12. sitruc_nuahs

    sitruc_nuahs New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2019
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Reviving an older thread here!

    I’m looking to get some aftermarket higher bars so obviously need to change the brake lines. Done a few brake lines before so it’s worth giving it a crack rather pay however much Mr Honda wants to charge for the bleeding?
     
  13. Stuish

    Stuish Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2018
    Messages:
    859
    Likes Received:
    395
    Have you got an ABS model?

    Also, welcome to the forum!
     
  14. sitruc_nuahs

    sitruc_nuahs New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2019
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    I need to add a new member post!

    I’ve got a MY18 SC77 so yep, ABS!
     
  15. nigelrb

    nigelrb Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2017
    Messages:
    9,804
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Even with basic mechanical and bleeding knowledge, I wouldn't even risk it on an ABS model.

    Credit to you if you have the knowledge and patience!;)
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. RC45

    RC45 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2017
    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    299
    The current bike requires no special consideration when bleeding the brakes.

    Per the service manual 18-6 through 18-9.

    Connect a bleed hose to the caliper bleed valve, loosen bleed valve and pump. Just like in the old days :)

    19-25 shows ABS Modulator replacement procedure with this being the final step "Fill and bleed the brake hydraulic systems (page 18-7)
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page