Well its gone way off topic. But pride events are profitable for towns, thats why there are loads of them now, any excuse for bringing in some of the pink pound. And my original point isnt about stereotypes, which some people might find offensive, i dont really care, im on about using the word gay as an insult
People have used differences as an insult for as long as I can remember. Spotty, ginger, four eyes, fatty, shorty, baldy are just some insults used either in jest or to taunt people for being different. I am sure that there are words used within gay communities as insults for straight people in the same way that Afro-Caribbean communities have words for other ethnicities. It's part of life, and you either worry about the minutiae or you get on with it. If a word becomes banned it is simply replaced with another. When the kids were younger I would call idiot drivers potatoes rather than wa**kers, now they use potato in a similar context, doesn't mean they don't like potatoes
to be honest, i don't have an insult for the skirt lifters out there. but, still, nobody can come up with a reason to say something is gay, rather than just saying its shit. anyway its an interesting discussion, and its good that its been discussed, rather than anyone just being offensive about it. and now im upset because of something i found wrong with my bike, but i had a great time riding it today, even got spotted riding past by two gay bikers on grindr in Matlock Bath
I can, and I say this with the greatest respect to you and your friends @blink. The reason is that the word gay had, in its earliest useage in referring to homosexuality, had connotations of horrid, distasteful, offensive, etc, etc. It followed that the word 'gay' was picked up as 'street lingo' and used in the context to which you refer: i.e. 'That shirt is really gay,' or, 'I'm not going to that gay restaurant,' to quote just two illustrations. I'm sure if you reflect back many years you might recall such an introduction. Still, both of these examples are a far cry from the original application of the word 'gay' as a happy and cheerful person. Author Jane Austen (1775 - 1817) used the word in more than 30 instances in her writings. I am flabbergasted that you have chosen to use the word 'skirt lifters' as one that deserves an insult. That is tantamount to discrediting your own sisterhood, for the prime application of the word is: 'lesbian or bisexual girl. a female who lifts other females' skirts'. Ref: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skirtlifter Sure, there are other applications - I just find this reference amusing in the circumstances. Anyway, I hope you fix your bike problem. That's far more important than all this stuff. Cheers!!
Blink mate it's just people being naive get on and enjoy lifes experiences and don't give a f*** about anybody's bigoted opinion about being gay, just be thankful that we live in a reasonably tolerant society here in the UK
Never come across it being used for lesbians! Anyway, the loom for the lightswitch side has been trapped under the steering damper nut and its worn 3 of the wires down to the copper, god knows how a fuse hasnt blown
@blink.......myself, @Lozzy and @Selmer50mark saw you riding through Matlock I think I saw those two gay guys you were on about of Grindr too......or at least I think it was them.......they were both riding GSXR's and had matching GSXR leathers!!
Similar thing happened to mine a few months ago, wiring for heated grips was trapped under clutch lever bracket it did blow the fuse but easily repaired. Hope you get it sorted.
It’s because being in those categories (in exactly the same way I am), we haven’t faced, and aren’t likely to face - discrimination and prejudice in the workplace or social environment, or even the risk of abuse or violence. All minorities want (generally speaking) is equal opportunity and respect - it’s just that our society isn’t very good at making change unless you shake the tree and make some noise. Hence pride marches, #metoo movement, Kick it Out etc. If you’ve lived your life as one of the majority it’s difficult to perceive the everyday and not so everyday shit that you might face if you’re black, gay, disabled or any other minority. A lot of the discrimination and prejudice minorities face is unconscious - it’s not all obvious banana throwing at football matches. But if you’re on the receiving side of it, it adds up. Imagine growing up in a world where the message you're faced with, whether it's overt or not is that 'it's not OK to be you - the very essence of you is wrong'. This what years of being exposed to gay as a perjorative term does. It's not enough to say 'hey, we all get insulted sometimes, get over it...'. It's actually up to us as a majority to think about what the cumulative effect of our culture and behaviour adds up to - because it's very easy for us not to see it. I grew up in Manchester in the 1980s, and didn't think anything of the fact that it was normal to call brown people 'pakis' and the kid who wasn't good at football 'gay' - and until I knew better I did exactly the same. It was 'normal'. But times have changed, and it is for the better. I’m glad society is generally becoming more tolerant and inclusive - even if there are some missteps and overly politically correct minefields to be navigated on the way.
this is pretty much it. really? i would have stopped had i known you were there, i wasnt gonna stop in a group of people i dont know, I did see a blade parked at the far end. I only rode through and then back. turned around in the mill shops car park. if you go next weekend, i think id like to stop by the two guys were wearing RST leathers im gonna get the bf to fix it, he has more patience with the soldering iron on things like that.
and this sort of thing is what makes me feel welcome here, i think i was just a bit surprised to see a knuckle dragger on fb, and then repeated over and over again.
No you wasn’t You said I’m gay because I ride a honda. Two definitions 1. Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. 2. Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room. I would not take these as an insult
i didnt say anyone was gay for riding a honda, and I was talking about using the word gay, as we know it means gay men, as an insult
Is it fair that a bloke kept parking across my driveway and when asked to move I was told “your picking on me because I’m gay” No I’m fu##### picking on you because you keep parking across my driveway
there are plenty of gay victims like you describe, they deserve a poke in the eye and you did get the bike wrong, but it still wasnt me that said it
