Hi Gents, I'm currently looking to buy a CBR1000RR for my self. The market in my home country unfortunately is quite limited. Thus picking the right bike is quite the challenge. Yesterday we went to check one decently looking bike imported from UK, HRC model from 2014. However, there are some concerns which came to our minds. Do you have any idea whether the logos are supposed to be stickers or painted? I've attached a picture for your convenience. We are pretty certain the bike had a fall, especially on the right side, due to some obvious scratches and some of the connectors of the spoilers mismatched, but which bike hasn't, right? Nevertheless, they do seems to be mostly cosmetic. The engine and the gearbox were working very smoothly. One more thing are the wheel rims supposed to be glossy and shiny? They did seem a bit odd as well. Many thanks in advance! Cheers, Georgi
Hi Georgi and welcome to the forum. Most of the later models, have stick on decals on the original fairings. Some might be clear lacquered over. Chinese fairings however, are all painted at the time of extrusion. You should notice the impression by running a finger over them. I guess the depth of shine on a wheel might depend on the amount of road grime that has been on them. If not washed carefully, wiping/washing of road grime will act as sandpaper and dull the finish. A good polishing should restore the gloss finish in most cases. the example you have shown appears in good, original condition.
Hi and welcome....your main concern should be the ABS on that bike. Although I'm not sure if your country requires it to be on bike's? Check out the big ABS thread on here, it may save you a lot of grief and expense.
Hi Guys, Huge thanks for the prompt reply. I'm currently looking into the ABS thread. It does seems quite scary this issue. From what i've read so far, it affects even 2014+ models. Is it fixable at all? Some people seems to have removed the ABS system. Is that a workable option or you would outright advice not to buy an ABS model at all?
It affects all pre 2017 models. My advice would be if you buy this one remove the abs before you do anything else. But better yet buy a none abs version
Having had one (2011) with all the grief it entailed and having done a lot of reading up on the issue I'd say avoid buying an ABS. I've got 2 non abs (2016) now and don't miss the benifits of the system at all. If you really want a sports with abs id look at some of the other brands
I think the problem with removing the abs longterm may be the resale issue. The v5 will show its abs and if I saw a ABS bike for sale with the system removed tbh I'd avoid it...why bother when you can buy an untampered with model.
I agree 100% @Lozzy, but @Georgi says there are slim pickings in his country so availability of none abs may be an issue. In which case next best would be to buy and remove
Or buy with the hope that his might be one of the thousands that didn't have a problem. I acknowledge there is an inherent risk there. I have not experienced the 'no brakes' problem so I'm obviously not in a position to offer truly constructive advice. If I were faced with the decision now, I would still go ahead with the purchase.
Problem is though Nigel that even if it works perfectly it'll still need that massive complicated brake bleed at service time which is expensive even with the reduced time the Honda technicians have got it down to. Also what's the availability of Honda dealers in the posters country. If you don't get the bleed exactly right it'll play up. Mine was once in for nearly a week with it doing just that.
The only way I'd consider this bike if I was Georgi is if... There is no alternative, the history show's no issues and it HAS a full history. The brake bleed has already been done successfully and it's miles away from needing the next. And I would be selling it before that time came. Doesn't paint over the fact it's a scandal that Honda have covered over and deny exists so on principal I can't recommend it with the old system on
Yep, fair enough. I hadn't considered that. And I do remember your lengthy posts on that subject - letting the bike sit for hours between bleed sessions. It just doesn't seem satisfactory with all the modern technology available. It does sometimes make us wonder whether going beyond the cable and shoes was a good move after all. To fall back to my now boring analogies: Brakes are like marriages, when they work, all's well; But when they fail, there can only be disaster.
Just to put a slightly different perspective on it, I had a 12 abs bike, did 12k miles on it, and now have. 14 model, also abs. If you read the manual the complicated bleed process is only required if you have replaced a component in the brake system. A conventional bleed will replace all the old fluid, take your time and go logically. Rear first, then front right, finally left as you sit on the bike.
Thanks for the info guys! Guess it's a bit of a random issue then :/ i will have some time to think it over. My work VPN is UK one sadly the shortage of bikes remains :/
Well I never nigel I only posted because on my screen the British flag was showing but now I have come back on to read your answer it has changed Creepy
Yep, it was showing Union Jack when I answered you, but Bulgaria in the am. I notice these things you know!
The 'CBR' logo should be part of the main blue sticker The 'HRC' logo should be part of the main red sticker 'HONDA' - five individual stickers (you can feel the edges of stickers) Wheels should be gloss black. Mine have done over 20k miles and are still very shiny I wouldn't get another ABS (been there, done that) Cheers, Ian
