Harsh. Unfair & vindictive? https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/17/bike...plate-hand-avoid-caught-speeding-9979133/amp/
Sorry, @hitch , but I have no sympathy for these breaches of law. Remember, we are all tarnished by these type of acts. The rider clearly made a pro-active move of deceit. Had he have just copped the fine, I'd have no issue, but to cover the plate elevates the offence. We can't go 'police bashing' (to coin a phrase; no suggestion against your point of view) when they uphold the law in incidents like these.
I hear ya I’m torn to be honest, not sure that the punishment fits the crime Agree that he should get the fine but the rest is very harsh and is definitely done to send a message (as is the media coverage) I guess the solution is don’t speed in the first place
Fair point. The fine is disproportionate to the 'crime', but the charge of perverting the course . . . is taken very seriously by the courts. Equally, the court has sent a clear message to potential number plate coverers!
They seem to be having a clamp down on anything that affects the revenue stream from scamera vans. Driver got find a shed load recently for flashing oncoming cars to warn them of a scamera van. Fines they are dishing out are totally disproportionate when you hear of some scrote getting fined £250 for burglary or similar.
North Yorkshires finest, they were hid in a hedge on a ling straight last sunday at 8am He would have got less if he’d have just nicked the camera van
Sadly true. When a bunch of scrotes in a van tried to steal one of my bikes a few years back the two we caught got 120 hrs community service and £80 fines. Needless to say the fines weren't paid and they never appeared for the community service. The real payment was the 10 shades of sh*t they had kicked out of them. However the guy on the story I don't have any real sympathy for, but it does demonstrate the lottery of the legal system.
This has been going on even since the days I served. In fact a few of you may recall all the attempts with reflective paint, plates that folded in half, special plates. The only plates that work against the cameras are the old White on Black, but you cannot use them unless your vehicle was registered after (I think the date may now have changed) after October 73. The offence is absolute along with the excess speed he was banged to rights but felt he was above the law. So the question I ask is how can anyone defend a numbpty like this when all he is doing is adding to the bad wrap we as bikers get when it is the minority spoiling it for the majority. He was lucky that he did not get sent down. I booked a few back in the day and they went down for anything from a month to 6 months but more importantly they all ended up with a criminal record. To some that may not be a big deal, but to others it could be catastrophic all because they thought they were being clever. No sympathy from me I am afraid and that is not just because I am a retired traffic cop.
Imagine you lived somewhere where you had no rights..and the coppers felt it was easier to snipe you off your bike than stop you and ticket you.
Not only that, just about every form of insurance ask if you’ve got any convictions. I’d rather not have to declare perverting the course of justice to help them bump my insurance up.
So do you think the punishment is proportional to the offence when you take in to consideration punishments handed out for more serious offences against the public? I don't recall reading anyone here saying he shouldn't be done, just that the punishment was disproportionate.
I hear what you are saying. It is very subjective on top of which it all comes down to which part of the country you live in and the attitude of the Magistrates. Let me turn your question around. I mentioned that some of those I had booked for the offence had (albeit many years ago) been handed down a custodial sentence ranging from 1 to 6 months. Would you say that handing out a large fine was better than sending someone down and I am convinced that the attitude of the rider probably palyed a part in that? We won't know for sure because the press only report the headline grabbing elements of a case, not the nuts and bolts of the evidence. But in the same vein, you have to look at the attitude of the judiciary. There have been so many examples of vicious thugs getting away (relatively speaking) with nothing more than a slap on the wrist, even cases of people not being sent to prison for GBH because the offender "appeared" to be a decent person and had showed remorse, or because the courts did not want to spoil the possibility of a career being ruined before it had started as jus a couple of examples. The who court process (in my opinion) needs a complete overhaul and we need to have Magistrates and Judges appointed who live in the real worls. I am sorry if that does not answer your question, but I am not sure it is a question I can honestly answer until we get rid of the current lot of magistrates and judges.
I would lay money on you have been speeding in your life. Especially if you are on here,so you either have a blade or spying
You show me someone who says they have never exceeded the speed limit and I will show you a liar!.......... Stupid comment to make. The offence is not doing it but getting caught and in some cases I was lucky enough and able to exceed the speed limit by a considerable margin for legitimate reasons. But it is not the speeding issue that is the point here, it is a seperate and criminal act that has brought this idiot to the attention of the wider public. And I do not have a blade anymore and I take offence at the suggestion that I am spying here.
I don't know though Tony...it might be that cream mac and fake tache you wear a lot.. Just tell him to stick to buying cheap chinese crap late at night when he's been on the pop instead of tipsy typing lol
