Yes they are visible...... Here's what the pm said!! Dear Mark Selmer, I had a really good time on our day out! I know we were out for 10 hours but only did 2 hours riding (bike) I think what happened between us should never be spoken of again, especially amongst our fellow forum members so please don't tell anyone.....especially PauloHRC! P. S. I lost my watch while I was rummaging around up there, so if you hear a clanging sound next time you go to the lavvy...... That'll be it!