ABS vs non-ABS wheels. I messed up.

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  1. tuktuk

    tuktuk Elite Member

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    No mate mine are black so no use to you :)

    Are there none available in the UK? If there are any issues with shipping you are welcome to use my work address to have them shipped to and then arrange a collection from.
     
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    I've got a couple of kilos of sugar coming from Columbia can I use your work address too ?
     
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    Charges may apply for hazardous items :p
     
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    Thank you for the offer :)

    One last thing:

    Would like to triple check, before I make a mistake (again).
    2012-2016 wheels with brake discs will fit 2008-2011 models
    2008-2011 model brake discs will not fit 2012-2016 wheel
    2008-2011 model calipers will fit 2012-2016 wheels and their discs
    So if I buy 2012-2016 wheels, I need to make sure that the wheels come with the brake discs
     
  5. Slick

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    if non ABS wheels to non ABS bike then full compatibility

    For fronts the disc holds the pulser ring so for an ABS you need to make sure it has an ABS disc - the wheels themselves are the same fitment

    For rear the pulser ring sits on the wheel so independent of the disc so for an ABS you need the version with the ABS holes.

    Calipers are identical between the years.
     
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    Alright thanks for clarification.
    How about the ABS ring on the front and back, any idea if I remove my ABS rings from 2011, they would fit ABS 2015 wheels?
     
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    if ABS wheels directly interchangeable
     
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    Does anyone know what changed between the 2014 and 2015 wheels? I'm getting a bit worried, as I looked up by a part number, and the wheel part numbers are different for 2012-2014 wheels and 2015-2016. I know for a fact I read on a forum that 2012 go right on, but now I'm worried, because the 2015 are different part number. Can someone clarify this for me? I feel like I'm being stupid and missing something

    2015:
    https://www.partzilla.com/product/honda/42650-MGP-305ZE
    2012:
    https://www.partzilla.com/product/honda/42650-MGP-305ZA
     
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    If I'm looking to get a quote from a garage in removing the abs system, how many hours of labour should I be looking at here approximately?
     
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    I see. I saw you mentioned that you deactivate the ABS just by pulling the fuse, could you give me more info on this? For example I get the new wheels, but can't find anyone to drill the rear wheel, maybe for the time being I can just simply disable the ABS and ride still with the whole system. Unless I misunderstood what you mean by deactivating ABS by pulling the fuse
     
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    Fuse box is under the seat, pull out the one indicated to deactivate the ABS.
    The bike now operates the same as a non abs albeit with much longer lines.

    The ABS light will remain on but you will instantly notice the lever is much harder,responsive, consistent travel and will now ultimately lock up on demand! It will feel weird too as the rears will not be activated by the front lever and vice versa. I used to stomp the rears quite often especially in traffic, without ABS they will lock very easily.
    Just make sure you get used to it before getting too enthusiastic!

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    Perfect, thanks for the info. Looks like the only person that I found who could drill the wheel is no longer available, so I will be looking into doing it myself, as now I will have the new wheels with correct spacing.
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    Does anyone by any chance know exactly what material are the OEM wheels? As I will be looking for the most suitable drill bits for this job
     
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    Cast Aluminium according to the sales literature
     
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    Doh, stupid me, but it's missing the thread pitch then right?
    Edit: According to the standard sizes should be .8
     
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    I would seriously consider removing the whole system if it's an option for you. Its known to be russian roulette on two wheels at the best of times but the thought of paying a good amount of money for wheels to then drill them to accommodate hondas ABS sends shivers down my spine!

    There is a great thread on here on removal.
     
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  19. JRNapalm

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    I'll still think about it, to be honest I mostly use it on the road, didn't really have to much problem with it yet, I learned not to quickly engage the brakes twice in a row, but more smoothly. Need to get some quotes from garages, but for a days work might be quite expensive, and I don't really have a place to do it myself. Will have a think :)
     
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    What is the currently most up to date topic on the ABS removal, and also everyone seems to be removing every component of ABS from their bike, is there some sort of way to bypass most of that work if I don't care about saving weight?
     

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