Interesting data from the Office for National Statistics released in December under freedom of information. People in England and Wales who died of covid with no other underlying causes in 2020 and 2021 up to the end of September. 2020: 9400 (0-64: 1549 / 65 and over: 7851) 2021 Q1: 6483 (0-64: 1560/ 65 and over: 4923) 2021 Q2: 346 (0-64: 153/ 65 and over: 193) 2021 Q3: 1142 (0-64: 512/ 65 and over: 630) https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/tran.../deathsfromcovid19withnootherunderlyingcauses I’m still happy to have had the vaccines, It’s too much of a lottery not to in my opinion. Still, I’m surprised the media hasn’t been all over this.
"Percentage figures of deaths from certain groups must be treated with a degree of scepticism" I treat all conspiracy sites/people with the same scepticism It's hard to convince a sceptic about covid until they are dying I guess
Best to try and forget it all now I'd say. We've all lost enough of our lives to this crap. Hope we can be left alone to judge our own health and risk in the future...won't hold my breath.
Not much chance of me getting it, I've never done a test Edit: Tell a lie, had to do 2 when I went to Spain.
Totally agree, I’ve not worked since the start of the pandemic and I’m still getting work cancelled. The vast majority of the population have some sort of immune response to the virus now, whether it’s vaccine or infection. Time to get on with it now and anyone who is genuinely vulnerable should be helped to stay safe.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/tran...formationfoi/influenzadeathsin20182019and2020 26,398 people died of flu & pneumonia in 2019, according to the ONS. This doesn't have the same coverage, or bulk buying.
5x as many died from covid, so I guess that's why, personally I don't know anyone that has died from the flu, but I do know of friends families that have died with covid clearly covid is more of a killer than flu and all the measures that were taken has helped to keep it down to just 5x that of flu. Who know how high it may have been if there was no intervention? We will never know, thankfully Anyway it does seem to be dying down more now, mutating into more of a mild strain virus which we can live with better, so here's to a better future for us all
According to the World Health Organization, 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide. COVID-19 has killed over 5 million people worldwide in just 2 years.
I agree with your sentiment, of course. 26,398 deaths in 2019 from F&P is surely worse than 9,400 Covid deaths, albeit the following year? They're unlikely to switch places.
Remind me again where the WHO gets a large proportion of its money from? I think the UK's ONS, which you cited as a reliable source, is more relevant.
"26,398 deaths in 2019 from F&P is surely worse than 9,400 Covid deaths" Since you disagreed with that, I'm guessing you struggled with maths at school. Am I right?
No, got A level maths, what I disagree with is simple, covid didn't start until Nov 2019 in China and didn't reach UK until end of the year, so your facts are incorrect, use the 2020 numbers of you want to compare both against each other. Covid is clearly worse, but like conspiracy people, you bend the facts to suit your own warped ideas
Fuck me! I clicked on your link & thought I was invited into some kind of 'Guess the country' game, by Fisher Price. Pretty much as I suspected before, if I recall correctly. You are quite possibly about 15 years old, so should not be on this site.
A bit of topic now, but this seems like you Every day, people who spend time online face a deluge of conspiracy theories, misinformation, and disinformation. Plenty of them move along, clicking past outlandish or false content that's designed to lure them in. Some, however, become ensnared for reasons experts don't fully understand. Thanks to algorithms, like the ones that drew many into QAnon, people quickly slip into dark corners of the internet and find a community of believers, or even zealots, who swear they've discovered hidden truths and forbidden knowledge. These people might rightfully distrust government authorities, find political polarization invigorating, and search for information that confirms their own views, all of which could make them more vulnerable to falsehoods. Conventional wisdom says media literacy, fact-checking, and critical thinking skills are the best weapons against those impulses. Yet this approach rests on the dangerous assumption that people's emotional and psychological well-being has little bearing on their vulnerability to far-fetched ideas, elaborate lies, and cunning propaganda. In fact, recent research suggests that their mental health can influence what they're willing to believe.
Anyway conversing with people like you is crazy, you will never see the truth, only your twisted ideas, so on my ignore list you go... Won't need to see your stupid ranting anymore...
Hahaha! The only part that wasn't copied & pasted was your first sentence, which was the only one not Americanised, and also the shittest one. Did you mean to say "A bit off topic" Instead of "A bit of topic". Wasn't sure if you'd invited me to a peanutty chocolate bar with squirrels in it.
In my military service, I (plus many others) used to have to report to the Med centre to keep our jabs up to date. Typhoid, diphtheria, yellow fever, pertussis, anthrax, Hep C the list goes on and I still haven’t a clue what any of that shit is. That was on a regular basis. Since then I have fathered very healthy children. I’m COVID jabbed up with the following flavours- AZ x2 and booster Pfizer. So I am ok with this vaccination programme.
I had those when I went travelling. The first jab wasn't very nice, but the second was fine. Ditto fathered healthy children since. Would have those jabs again, if the need arose. No problem at all.
