So, I'm getting that itch to replace my current blade and I'm looking at the triple R SP. I haven't ridden one yet, that's pencilled in for Saturday, but I'd be interested in the opinions of those on here that have ridden one. Better yet from those on here that own one, especially if they have moved on from the SC77 and can offer a comparison.
I moved on from a 2018 SP I don't know if that's a SC77, I don't pay that much attention. But I have bought a new 2021 triple R. I've done 1360 miles on it so far. It is an amazing bike. It is far better than I am capable of. During your test ride hold it at 7000rpm in 3rd gear and give it the beans, it's amazing. Don't expect your OEM tyres to last long even when riding it quite steady. A pair of new Metzelers M9s are going to set me back £399 on a ride in ride out basis. The engine is so smooth and despite what you might read, it isn't gutless on the road at low revs like they say, IMO. 30mph in top is doable and it will pull cleanly away. I like the dash board, very informative. Although a bit faffy to change the setting, pressing the flimsy buttons. I have been experimenting with suspension setting. As I'm taking it to Spain in a week's time I was experimenting with the rain setting, expecting it to be more compliant and forgiving over the bumps. But I haven't found this to be the case. I've found it to adversely affect the feedback from the front wheel, and it gives me the willies, making the bike reluctant to lean in the corners. I still need to experiment a bit more on this. I can't usually tell the difference between suspensions setting but I can in this case. I like the image of the bike on the dash showing the lean angle but the novelty wears off. I've fitted a higher Puig screen and this helps with the comfort. This next bit might seem a bit strange but I wish the exhaust valve opened at higher RPM. To start with when this exhaust valve opens you'll think someone is overtaking you. Fuel consumption is pretty good too. I regularly get 180+ miles per tankful. Throttle response off tick over is a bit wooly just like my 2018 SP. This makes it a bit awkward exiting slow corners or setting off from a standing start gently. IE if horses are around or you need to keep the noise down for whatever reason. But you do get used to it and its an easy ride around. Mirrors are the usual, if want to see behind you, you have to tuck your elbows in. First service cost around £130. I bought mine on a special offer. I know for a fact I would not have bought one at full price. Although the SPs are amazing they aren't worth £24500, IMO. Any specific questions please ask. I'll do my best to help. Enjoy your test ride, give the back tyre some stick at their expense.
I've had my 2020 RR-R SP for nearly 2 years not, covered 12500 miles including track and road riding. Best Blade I've ever had back from my first in 1998, bags of power but like most bikes on the road today too much for road riding. I.E. First gear 120MPH, second gear 138MPH, third gear 164MPH and so on. As for track riding it's unbelievable apart from the tall gearing, last track day I did at the Anglesey Circuit I only use 3 gears with most corners taken in first, don't get me wrong as 1st is very usable and the bike handles so well along with a great sounding exhaust system. There is certainly no need for any extra add-on parts except for a tail tidy maybe. All you need to remember is you have to ride it like a 600 as all the power is after 5500 and when you hit 11,000 rpm you better be hanging on tight because she fly's. Hope this helps with your decision making and enjoy your test ride Saturday. PS Picture for attention
Thanks, one in the positive camp. How do you find the riding position on the road? I've sat on one at shows and it feels more aggressive than anything else I've ridden.
Thanks, that's a lot of miles. Have you considered changing the gearing? It seems to make quite a difference and even Honda have admitted that the gearing is too long and changed it for the 22MY.
Did think about changing the gearing but heard it causes traction control issues, HOWEVER someone on this forum has changed to a 43 tooth rear sprocket from 40 and reckons he has had no issues. I've ordered one of the new Anniversary Blades but it's been delayed until June so have had my old 2020 Blade back as I've a number of track days booked. As for road riding which you asked Kev above, I have found it not bad at all, wrist ache from slow town riding but above 40 it's OK and after a 250 mile ride out it kills your arse. As for tyres, couldn't wait to change the Bridgestones, went to Power 5's, then Michelin started doing a 200 rear in the Power GP so went for them until I tried the Power Cup 2's, OMG what a tyre which is road legal. Enjoy your ride out tomorrow @dgr.
Photo from last weeks James Whitham Track Training day on Anglesey Circuit. Great couple of days with Adam Jenkins and Billy McConnell as our instructors, well worth the money and only 20 on track, result.
I test rode one in 2020. It's almost the total opposite of the SC77. Power is all up top, but it's silky smooth down low when trundling through town. Bars are low and open but the screen and fairing is bigger. It's a lot more stable but feels a bit longer and takes more turning. Keyless ignition is a stupid answer to a question nobody asked, and putting the key in a race suit is a pain in wherever it ends up. Everything I like about the SC77 is gone and so is everything I dislike. Overall I felt the old one was a better road bike so kept it.
Test ride done. Two actually. I went up to Nottingham to test a RR-R SP that Vertu Honda were advertising. Two years old with only 18 miles on the clock and almost every extra you could think of, including a full titanium Akrapovic exhaust system with a Rapid Bike Evo fuelling module. I set off from the dealership and everything seemed fine at first. The riding position was aggressive but it felt more comfortable than I was expecting. The dash is good although it doesn't fall naturally in my eye line and if it wasn't for the taller MRA screen I would have been looking through the screen at the dash in a normal riding position. Having trundled through town, which was fine although surprisingly docile, I hit some open road and that was where the problems started. I tried to open her up a bit and the engine warning light came on accompanied by a stuttering and an almost complete loss of power. I stopped and started the bike, which helped initially but the problem returned 3 times so it was basically unrideable. Limping back to the dealer they had no idea what was wrong. It could have been something to do with the Datatool alarm, which was going off when I rode in, apparently. I didn't hear it through my ear plugs. Fortunately they have an SP demonstrator so I went out on that. Still not run in though, so limited to 8000 rpm. No drama this time. Not being able to use the full rev range was restricting given that there is nothing going on below 6000 rpm. Around there it is like a VTEC engine kicking in. There's none of the SC77's low down grunt. It feels like there is a good bike in there and the front end feels good. A gearing change and tune (if you can get one) might make all the difference. Another minus point was the switchgear. Tiny, flimsy buttons for the indicators and moving around options in the menus.
Sorry to hear your test ride didn't go according to plan and you couldn't try out the full potential of the bikes. I reckon a fuelling issue with first bike, why put full system and fuel module when the bike doesn't really need it unless you were racing it, the bike sounds mint standard with 217BHP why mess. I got pull at Donnington for noise on their ride by noise test, 102 and it was a 98 quiet day. I'd get yourself another test ride on a unmodified bike that is actually run in, you won't be disappointed, trust me.
Or make a deal with them on this lemon for a more advantageous price, and get the issue sorted (remove the datatool?)
They hate being messed with the exhaust standard on them is great I really don't get why people crave a further 3 to 4 bhp or so it's more than you'll ever need just look at the NW200 super stock Davy Todd flying on it as for lid at 8k there not unlike BMW that are...wrong of dealer to send you out on one with 18miles not only engine run in but tyres not scrubbed in either...I run ours in to 600miles 1st service then cutomers can use fit for purpose....now has put you off one ...they are great bikes
I came from a 2020 BMWS1000RR M Sport to a 2020 Non SP CBR1000RR-R..... and the blade is by far the better bike IMO. The BMW let me down on 6 occasions, yes it was covered by warranty but when you buy a bike brand new you expect it to be right. I went for the Blade for the reliability and finish, if i could turn back the clock then i wouldn't of bought the BMW and gone straight for the Blade. I'm 5'8 and the riding position is just perfect for me. The blade is such a power house and yes you have to ride it like a 600, so i changed the gearing to match the 2022 bike 16/43 and what a difference it made, way more power low down and it just pulls like a train! (Speedo is out by 3mph). TC works fine so no issues with the change of gearing. As for Mods, it came with a tail tidy fitted so happy days. I have also fitted R&G bungs, GB Racing engine covers (As i will be using it on track), Brake lever guard, HEL Calipers/Master Cylinder/Braided lines (Nothing wrong with the originals just that i prefer HEL), Puig double bubble screen, Brake lever guard and i have ordered a Puig rear hugger as the stock one looks naff IMO. You will not be disappointed with the bike.
Fresh from my disappointing day testing the new RR-R SP, and with the new bike itch still needing scratching, I started looking around at alternatives. I still want a sports bike even though the day age makes them too uncomfortable to ride is fast approaching, so it means another marque. This marks a bold departure for me because although I haven't owned many bikes, they have all been Hondas. Having discounted the other Japanese bikes and Ducati, the choice came down to the S1000RR or the RSV4. The Italian won, and an RSV4 Factory is on order. I figure I'll try it for a while with the likelihood being I'll return to the Fireblade in a couple of years. So, if anyone is interested in a one owner 2017 Fireblade in Matte Black, it is going for the ridiculously low price of £8500 for a week or so before it gets part exchanged.
ive come from bmw s1000rr i changed over to honda rrr sp 2021 last fri ,ive only been out for a 50 miler,the things i found ,yep you need to ride it like a 600,im a lazy rider i dont do 1000s of gear shifts,so i will be changing the gearing to 15-43,i just cant get my head around how you set up the dash,ive looked on line for a good vid on it,which i couldnt find,so im hopeing one you nice people will be able to help,the pegs are just to high for the rd,i found the throttle heavy,no doubt you cant do anthing about that, but i do really like it,over 6 grand its a hoot but only using 2 gears,round the twisties,so overall its a great bike
The issues I had with the RSV4 have been documented elsewhere, and I'm now 2 weeks into my ownership of a 2020 RR-R SP. It only had 329 miles on it when I bought it, I've added about the same again so far. Definitely pleased with my decision to go back to a blade. It does feel pretty flat below 6000rpm, which probably explains why it feels so exciting above that. The contrast is significant. I do plan to change the gearing though. The current plan is to change to 15/42 so that I can keep the existing chain. Once you get to 16/43 it is borderline whether you need to move up to 120 links. It also means I can revert to the stock setup if the gearing change messes with the traction control and quickshifter/blipper, as is suggested by some. There is an ecu mapping option from BrenTuning, which is a DIY solution where they send you a handheld unit and a couple of maps for your bike's configuration and you perform the flash yourself. I'm a little nervous about that though and I heard a rumour that the Woolich Race Tools might be available for the RR-R fairly soon. I had my SC77 mapped using the Woolich software by BSD Performance in Peterborough and was very happy with the results so that is my preferred option. I know there are people in the UK that have used the BrenTuning solution though, and it would be good to get some feedback on it. On the negative side the bike runs hotter than the SC77 in terms of perceived heat, particularly on the left side. The indicated temperature in normal riding is 81 degrees though, and the fans work, unlike the RSV4, so riding around town and in slow traffic isn't a problem. Maybe when it is mapped it won't run so lean and run a bit cooler. Slightly less comfortable for a pillion passenger, apparently, due to heat and vibration. I don't notice any vibration through the seat. There is some vibration through the right footpeg but not as bad as S1000RR and not really noticeable through the bars. As Kevin1 said, it isn't particularly smooth pulling away from a standstill, almost as if there is some clutch judder.
