Brake pad change

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  1. BoroRich

    BoroRich Elite Member

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    Well I've got my SBS sinter pads and should be changing them out shortly. Couple of questions if you could help me.

    (a) What grit paper do you use to sand the brake discs

    (b) The Haynes manual says to replace the bolts that hold the pads in the caliper. Either that or to use a little loctite on them. Do any of you actually replace the bolts and if not which loctite would you use?
     
  2. Givover

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    Hi Rich, From a novice point of view i have changed quite a few pads mainly just to waste some money and only tonight whilst mooching in the garage i found a set off my 08 blade which looked quite new and i had put them in a Brembro packet which said fast red or something like so that got me thinkin that although i only have 2000 miles on the clock and they are ABS i have never had the Bite we all crave for .Looking at the old ones there is still loads on and they seem to have a sintered compound which is strange being so average. What make did you get?. All i do is take the pads out and give the caliper a good spray of brake cleaner and a wipe out .I have never put sand paper on the disc only brake cleaner and a clean cloth (Thinking the pads should do the cleaning) I don't replace the bolts as there seems no point and they have been ok for me just a small amount of blue loc tight. There are plenty of Dudes on here like Old Arthur who may correct me which is fine .Hope this helps.?
     
  3. BoroRich

    BoroRich Elite Member

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    Cheers, mate. That's pretty much what I did on the R6 that I just got rid of. I watched the two videos below and it suggests giving the disk a sand with some emery cloth to clean them up and remove any remnants of old pad material before giving them a clean with the brake cleaner. I think someone mentioned something like 300 grit wet and dry as being the one to use but I can't quite remember. After the suggestions on here I got SBS pads from these guys. Arrived really quick so I'm pleased with the seller.

    Honda CBR1000 RR Fireblade SBS FRONT BRAKE PADS Sinter | eBay


     
  4. abv

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    You only really need to clean the disks if you are are going to or from dual carbon pads. The carbon in the pads transfers a thin layer to the disks. OE or after market sintered to another sintered you'll be fine.
     
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    Ah cool. Thanks for the info, mate.
     
  6. bluekontakt2004

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    This is what I do when I change pads.

    Remove one calliper, pump out the pistons slightly, remove pads. clean all around the piston and dust seal with brake cleaner and a soft tooth brush, push pistons back in, put a smear of copper slip on rear of brake pad, transfer the shim, clean sliders and apply red calliper grease sparingly, re fit pads, re fit callipers, pump lever, then do the other calliper.
     
  7. BoroRich

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    Cheers, mate. From memory that's pretty much bang on what I did last time. My memory's pretty sh*te these days :D

    And also I've forgotten to pick your sodding indicator up every morning this week on account of being in a rush but fear not I sent myself an email so I've remembered to put it in the car tonight and have sent myself another email to work to remind myself to post it :D
     
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    Just on swapping these out at the moment. I've pulled the old pads out and there's no shims there. Is it to run without them?
     
  10. bluekontakt2004

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    The shims only help eliminate the squeal so should be fine, I have had pads in brakes with no shims with no problems.
     
  11. BoroRich

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    Cheers mate. Thanks for getting back to me. Your indicator's winging its way to you by the way. You should have it tomorrow.
     
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    Cool cheers mate :)
     
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    I think the shims maybe also aid heat dissipation?
     
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    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    I guess you all mean the steel plates and thermal pad between the pad and piston, if so some pads carry a thermal plate to help keep heat from building up in the caliper helps to stop fade... Just thought id add that...lol so yes your right... :)
     
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    Quick question, Arthur. Would you normally expect the pads to be supplied with the shims, if they were intended to be used with them?
     
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    I have never been supplied with the shims when buying new pads, No matter if they are Honda oe ones or aftermarket.
     
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    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    They come with the (some) Honda kit mate but never seen them with any other brand, I say some as I have ordered them before and they were not included however others with the same part number have.. :S I have fitted the plates to other brands but some do not fit tight so I have left them out, tbh I have never had a problem with not fitting them in regards to heat or squeel and my advice would be to leave them out unless running the pad they were supplied with. Also they are not used with race pads even with high spec brake calipers and pads the one place you woukd expect to se them!
     
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    Cheers, lads. I didn't bother putting them in so I'll see how I go without them. It didn't have any in anyway so I can't see it causing a lot of problems. Many thanks.
     
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    Honda OE pads DO come with these "shims".
     
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    Has anybody recently changed the front pads if so what for and are you happy with them? And an Arthur question ,are the pads on an 2011 ABS the same as non ABS. Thanks Dudes.
     

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