HEL braided hoses - problem

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  1. Bikeracer1098

    Bikeracer1098 Active Member

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    Thanks guys

    Lee, thanks for the photos, mine should have been the same as your fittings.
     
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  2. Fletch

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    i bought a set of Venhill lines from Vic here

    What a pig they were to get sitting in any kind of sensible way! One long one short, the long one i feel is to long and the short one i feel is to short!
    I'm can't get both banjos on the front brake level round as far as i would like because of the brake light switch so intend to change to a pressure switch and remove the brake light switch so i can swivel them round further and stop them fouling on the infill over the air tubes, the long hose also rubs slightly in the horn and the front mounting bracke but only on full left lock,i will keep a close eye on it

    I just have enough slack in the short hose for a nice wee kink for suspension travel and the long hose is run right down with the short hose then over the fender just to use up slack

    i had them off at least 4 times to try different routing!

    Thanks for the info Arthur ...
     
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    Fletch Active Member

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    I've already got double p clips setup on the lower yoke to hold both hose in a alright position.

    then i have P-Clips on each side of the front fender ... Basically all the standard locations just an exta one on the yoke for the extra hose.

    The brake switch has limited where i can 'point' the top banjos and is one of the problems (which is why i was asking about the pressure switch)

    Hopefully this time home i will get it rotated and help position the hoses sit slightly better

    ETA i only have one P-Clip on the rear hose as i felt the second was pulling the hose into to tight a bend .. it didn't FEEL right as i tried to put it down
     
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  4. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Back to the original problem:- I have talked to Hel UK a number of times re the lines in the photo and they confirm that they are the WRONG way round I am a little frustrated as the supplies of the lines in the photo still claims that they are correct he also claims that he has talked to Hel UK and they confirm the lines in the photo are CORRECT!!! Well I must be talking to someone else??? After now calling Sean yet again at Hel he has told me yet again the lines are wrong and the should turn out from the calipers, its clear to me that they should turn that way as then they do not obstruct the caliper mounting bolts. I have fitted HUNDREDs of these lines in the last 25years! Sean has worked for Hel for over 8years! For me this is the end of this topic and I am only upset I don't have any photos of the lines I have fitted in the past to RR8+ bikes.... BUT mark my words as my customers come back in I WILL have photos.....lol
     
  5. fez.57

    fez.57 Well-Known Member

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    surely if its a known fault then it wont be that hard to change the design so that the banjo can be pointing in the correct direction
     
  6. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    According to Hel the diagram shows the turn to be Right = RH and Left = LH, there is nothing for them to change or they would.. :)
     
  7. Jamiestrada

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    So what your saying is they have been put together incorrectly. According to HEL UK, although HEL NI disagree ?

    So if we want to sort our lines out we have to foot the bill to return them and for replacement fluid....... And we will lose the use of the bike until our replacements arrive, and that is if the seller agrees there is a problem !!!!

    Can't say I am pleased about this if there is a problem, which there obviously is can't we just provide a pic and receive a correct pair of front lines ? None of us here would want to replace nearly new lines just for the HEL of it (excuse the pun) it would be nice to be treated in a professional manner without having to beg for a resolution.
     
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  8. stevebetts

    stevebetts Well-Known Member

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    You tell em Jamie!
    I will be buying braided lines next.
    I have had HEL, Goodridge and Wesmoto (HEL components) in the past. Had a problem with HEL (LINES THE WRONG LENGTH) and Wesmoto (wrong thread on banjos) but they both resolved it quickly.
     
  9. JonnyAnnett

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    There seems to be a lot of confusion and people jumping to conclusions in this thread. So hopefully I will be able to try and clear this up.

    The CBR1000RR 08+ kit is probably one of our most popular kits and this is the first time that any issue was brought to our attention and infact we where only made aware of any issue 2 days ago. We have discussed an issue via numerous emails as well as a telephone conversation with the concerned party. We have reviewed all information and came to a resolution with the buyer within 1 business day. At no time did we try and avoid helping the customer out. We pride ourselves on customer satisfaction and this is one of our business aims.

    With regards to any issue, like I say this is the first time this issue has ever occurred or been brought to our attention, and the kit has been in production for 5 years. So it's been quite baffling.

    If anyone has any queries you can contact me and we are more than happy to discuss any queries you may have.

    Hopefully that clears things up.

    Cheers
     
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    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Hi Jonny, what do you think about the banjo routing? Do you agree that they make it hard to remove the caliper mounting bolts? If so it is not an easy fix to have the banjo turn out? Also how is it that Hel UK have said the diagrams show them turning out and not inwards as the photos show.. You see I am very confused as I have not seen the lines like this before?
     
  11. JonnyAnnett

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    From the photos that we have seen the lines match the specifications in all of our databases so that's causing some confusion.

    I'll be able to comment more when we get the kit back to have a look at.

    And like I say there has never been an issue before and we do numerous kits for blades on a weekly basis. This is the first case of any issue. So once we get the kit back we will get a look at it and see what's what.

    Thanks
     
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    Good thread !
    Now I know what I don't buy "HEL and Venhill" braided hoses !
     
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    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Over the weekend I have checked out a few past customers who have had the lines fitted by a number of other dealers, here's where it gets a little odd:-

    I like the lines to face outwards to avoid the caliper mounting bolts and this is also how Hel UK claim they should be (tripple checked), Johnny builds them facing inwards (as per his Hel data) and has sold many pairs with no comments or problems, I have seen a number of other pairs that also face inwards but do not know where they originated from. All the pairs I have supplied and fitted face outwards...

    Does it matter? Well judging by most that have purchased them in the past no....lol
     
  14. fez.57

    fez.57 Well-Known Member

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    I have no issue with it just makes it a little harder but wont put me off buying them again as they look and perform great
     
  15. Andrew

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    I was struggling to get mine lined up nicely a few days ago, but light stopped play anyway.
    I'll give them another go later or tomorrow
    I wasn't sure if the tighter bend on the banjo's were ment to be at the calipers end or the master cylinder end!?
     
  16. Bikeracer1098

    Bikeracer1098 Active Member

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    Thanks guys for all your help and photos.
    My supplier has just sent me a new set, hopefully the bends will be spot on this time!!!!
    Also big thanks to Jonny
     
  17. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Dont forget guys that Hel dealers can make the lines up however you like! You can have any config you want so just ask! They make most of them to order anyway.
     
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    Bikeracer can you clear your messages please there full. :)
     
  19. Bikeracer1098

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    Sorry Tony, just cleared out my inbox
     
  20. Chris1000rr

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    Hi guys iv fitted my lines following what's wen said on here and my calliper banjos go back and out, but doing it this way is leaving the shorter of the two lines on the left side, this cannot be right can it? Has anyone else got any info on firing these on an 08 blade?
     

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