What sort of RWHP is everyone getting from their 08-11's ?

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  1. Reeve Peacock

    Reeve Peacock New Member

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    What sort of RWHP is everyone getting from their 08-11's on the dynos and what mods to get there?

    I've got the 08 with a PC5, AR Gp exhaust and a K&N with a custom map and she's making 173.5 up from 161, wandering how much more is left(within reason)!
     
  2. nigelrb

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    Hi Reeve, and welcome.

    Strange post first up. I have a 2011 and have no interest what 'figures' are produced by a dyno. It wouldn't matter to me whether I had a printout stating that 140 or 200 bhp was being registered. What I am interested in is how responsive my bike is in both power and handling and how I can maximise my enjoyment from it. I think people become obsessed with these 'rear wheel bhp' figures which almost mirrors a pissing contest.

    This scenario is equivalent to a person getting their heart-rate checked and then stating to all that they have a heart of an ox and by implication meaning that they are the fastest and fittest athlete of their generation when in fact the figures do not tell the true story.

    Anyway, each to their own. We all enjoy our bikes for different reasons. How about posting up a pic of your 2011 and I'll post up one of mine?:)
     
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  3. Blade runner 1

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    Depends what Dyno your bike has been on, they can give wildly different readings. For me it’s more important to have a smooth power delivery across the rpm range with no flat spots.
     
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    Welcome to the forum @Reeve Peacock I similarly have no idea for RWHP but I only ride for pleasure. As long as its smooth, goes when asked and stops (shudder :rolleyes: ABS) when needed I’m a happy camper
     
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  5. Reeve Peacock

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    Not a pissing contest at all but at the end of the day if we didn't want a bit more power we'd all be on the sv650 forum! Agreed responsive handling is king but after a good set of tyres is done it gets expensive very quickly and im not looking to shell out for Ohlins and dymag. The bits I've put on have come pretty cheap and made a difference in power and how responsive she is.

    Just curious to how these 10 year old engines with a few tweaks stack up against the newer bikes with the recent hikes in HP

    Picture below as requested


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    Enough. Happy to help :D
     
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    Cheers for the informative response.
    I actually want less power, which is why I'm on the NS400R forum!:D

    Pic of my 2011 in fresh clothes:
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  9. Reeve Peacock

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    I actually want less power, which is why I'm on the NS400R forum!:D

    Fair play, as you can see I've got my old S4 in the pic which is my main bike and track bike but you cant beat having that 1000cc 2nd bike in the garage ready to come and play out on a nice day!
    You're not selling the blade though are you?
     
  10. steve750

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    It's not a contest Nigel
     
  11. Jez

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    Best mod for the 400 is to shoehorn in a 900 motor :D
     
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    Not a chance. I stockpile them!;)

    Huh? Don't understand. I haven't done/said anything to suggest it is.:)
     
  13. Stuish

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    Whoa whoa whoa! I had an Sv650s and could keep up plenty well enough ;) traded up to the blade though, kept it for 7 years, was still mint until I sold it to my mate and he smashed it down the road, its now in my garage with the front end removed :(
     
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    I had a full custom remap on mine when I had it and it made 161bhp (2010) at the wheel, this was with a Leo Vince GP pro exhaust and sprint filter. Although this might not sound a lot it was a very consistent figure with all the other blades of the same era on that dyno.

    I went for this rather than the PC option due to the level of adjustment available between the two options.

    This resulted in better drivability as the map was tailored exactly to the bike rather than a generic tune for a specific bike. The other difference was how the throttle position was managed and the second set of injectors.

    Fuelling was corrected throughout the Rev range so there were no rich/lean spots, which you will have to comply with any Euro emissions that had to adhered to at the time. The bikes are run lean or rich (can’t remember which) from the factory to comply with EURO 3/4. There currently is no emissions test or wasn’t for motorcycles but I’ve not checked whether these have been implemented in the current MOT changes.

    The biggest difference was in the midrange though where it had a 20bhp increase over std. Coupled with the injectors always 20% open off throttle, the response was instant.

    Coming off the apex and getting back on throttle, there was no lag, just instant drive.

    I’ve now sold the Blade and have a 1299 Panigale which will be getting remapped in January. In the top half of the Rev range, the Panigale is superior in every way compared to the blade, as it should be being 6 years younger and the development gap between the two. But what it does remind me of was how snatchy the blade was in the lower rev range until it was remapped. Drivability again being the major factor in remapping the Panigale.

    It’s worth noting that you don’t get full power in the first 4 gears and the remap takes the map from 5&6 and applies it to the first 4 gears maps as a starting point before some fine tuning.
     
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    Excellent post of most useful information!
     
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    Mine will be mapped and dynod before any major use next year. It runs fairly well considering the exhaust on it with generic pc5 map but it bothers me knowing it's not 'right'.

    Will report back with flame videos and printouts when done.
     
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  18. Jez

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    I would love 20 hp gain mid range I am not bothered about top end. I would like to see dyno before and after
     
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    My Dyno tune gave me about +3 to 4 bhp in the mid range and about +7 at the top end. Would like to know more on how 20 bhp gain in the mid range is achieved.
     
  20. Reeve Peacock

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    Nice one will look forward to hearing what it makes and will find out what dyno mine was done on!
     

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