No pressure in cylinder 3

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  1. mickey

    mickey New Member

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    Just done a compression test on my 05 cbr1000rr all 3 cylinders are great pressure but number 3 cylinder has no pressure at all I put a little oil in the cylinder tried again and still no pressure any one had this problem I’m thinking stuck valve or hole in the piston
     
  2. Bikeboy

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    Stuck or burned valve .pull the head off and take a look. Not a 2min job though :(
     
  3. mickey

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    I’m not scared in the process now
     
  4. Bikeboy

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    Not scared :cool: :)
     
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    As above,
    Burnt out exhaust valve, sticking valve(s), hole in piston. What was the symptoms when the problem occurred?
     
  6. mickey

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    I originally thought it was just the valve check as I had gone well over it so I re shimmed it and no better it’s only running on 3 cylinders the day it happened my m8 who was behind me said a big puff of white smoke cane out the back of the exhaust
     
  7. Boothman

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    White smoke could suggest steam but you’d still have (some) compression. If it doesn't sound like a bag of nails its not the rings. Holed piston is possible but you’d have other things throwing up no oil pressure etc. A cracked head or block you’d hear and there’d most likely be a puddle under it.
    Sounds like an exhaust valve is jammed open but you say you've checked that :confused:
     
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    Given the symptoms, I have to go with a bad valve.
     
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  9. mickey

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    I did notice it had a ticking sound but read some where this is common on honda’s also it could be a exhaust gasket from the cylinder head leaking can cause a ticking sound and also a loose valve can cause a ticking sound in my book it shouldn’t be makeing a ticking sound no matter what
     
  10. Black & White

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    @mickey. The only real way to pinpoint the fault is with a cylinder leakage test. You'll need compressed air though, so will need access to a compressor! Get the offending piston/cylinder TDC power stroke & get a constant 100 psi into the spark plug hole (You might be able to adapt something to fit the compression tester). You'll hear where the air is escaping & it'll be either - Out the exhaust exit (exhaust valve)/air filter box (inlet valve)/oil filler (piston or rings)/bubbles in cooling system (headgasket or cracked head). However. If your valve clearances are roughly correct on that cylinder then it probably won't be a bent valve. But wherever the fault lies, I'm afraid it's engine out/head off time for you my friend.:(
     
  11. mickey

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    I’m in the process of takeing the head off if it is a stuck valve then I’m just going to get a second hand head as it’s much cheaper than getting it re furbished
     
  12. Black & White

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    @mickey. It could be mate, but I'd always refurb a head before fitting it on. You could be fitting one that's going to have the same problems in the near future. It's a lot of work to change, and you know the service history of your head! I'd fix your head/valves if I were you.
     
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  13. mickey

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    I’m gona get some quotes on a re ferb head I guess you are right
     
  14. Black & White

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    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Valve-Se...122754&hash=item235f8b2e13:g:bckAAOSwSdZWfC1I
    Not sure if these are the right ones? Or there's a single one on eBay for £20. I've got a valve spring compressor I can lend/send to you but I could be jumping ahead of myself here until you know what's wrong. If you do have a faulty valve(s) & don't fancy it/haven't got the time, it could be worth sending it to an engineering shop for crack testing, reface & valve replacement? Unless the refurbished head is an exchange unit? Valve spring compressor.jpg
     
  15. mickey

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    That’s very kind of you too offer me the tool I’m going to get the head off at the weekend I’m fairly sure it’s not a cracked head but you never know I wish I knew how too put pics on here but I don’t but if you want to send me ur number in a private msg I will WhatsApp you some pictures and the compression test video clips I got
     
  16. Black & White

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    @mickey. No problem chap. Regarding pictures, I'm no expert & no doubt do it a long winded way. I email them to myself, save as & then compress them. They are then 'small' enough to 'Upload a File' I don't know how to PM on here though!
    Not sure if pictures/videos would help me diagnose what's going on inside mate, but if you've absolutely no compression at all, it's either a major valve or piston failure, which will be obvious when the head comes off. Where in the country are you?
     
  17. mickey

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    Bedford
     
  18. Black & White

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    Not a million miles away mate. If you haven't got the time, I'll refurbish your cylinder head professionally if you like, provided that's the problem. I've also got a Newey, three angle seat cutter for a proper Honda job. You didn't say how to PM, so you can email me. [email protected] & I'll give you my number there.
     
  19. mickey

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    will do fella
     

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