07 blade fork upgrade advice needed

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  1. scratcher

    scratcher Active Member

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    Hi,

    I am thinking of a new project for my 07 blade. I do 3 or 4 track day a year and found the standard forks a little wanting. I struggle to set the sag up and somtimes the front bottomes out. I don't realy want to go for full ohlins due to the cost.
    So a spring and valve DIY fork rework it is. Has anybody done this? I can get the springs for my weight but I was wondering where to get the valve kits form?
    Is this something an average home spanner man can do?
    Any advice would be appreciated
    Ta:yo:
     
  2. megawatt

    megawatt Well-Known Member

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    Would have thought so mate. Dunno if Kais or another suspension specialist would do supply only?
     
  3. fisher

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    K-Tech do supply only, or they'll fit them for you
     
  4. scratcher

    scratcher Active Member

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    Thanks for that but I have asked k-Tech and they will only supple the re-valve stuff to trade:blink:
     
  5. fisher

    fisher Active Member

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    Can't you ask your local dealer to order them.....just a thought mate
     
  6. Bats

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    I did this on my old bike mate 07 blade!

    You want MAXTON its 315 pound +vat for springs re-valve etc for your weight and what a differance it makes! they are based in chesire and you can post to them or drop off!

    hope that helps!!
     
  7. Bats

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    Just found the email they sent me interesting read for you!

    LAUREL BANK
    KINGSWOOD
    FRODSHAM
    CHESHIRE
    WA6 6HX
    TEL - 01928 740531
    FAX – 01928 740635
    EMAIL – [email protected]
    WEBSITE – Maxton Suspension home page
    HONDA FIREBLADE 2004 to 2007
    FRONT
    The front forks on this Fireblade have a few problems. For the average
    rider weight (13 stone) the springs in the forks are too soft, this combined
    with the new improved brakes makes the front of the bike dive a lot under
    braking, and maybe bottom the forks out. The other big problem is there
    is not enough rebound damping inside the forks, even on the maximum
    setting. This means that when you let go of the brake the forks spring
    back at quickly, so as you are trying to get down and in to the corner, the
    forks are coming back at you, making it very difficult to get into the
    corner. Also when you open the throttle to exit the corner the forks
    extend to fast, taking too much weight off the front wheel, causing the
    front tyre to lose grip, run wide and feel a bit "twitchy". We revalve and
    respring the forks, fitting harder springs to suit your rider weight this stops
    them diving and bottoming out. The revalve increases the rebound
    damping to control the harder springs, whilst using the correct weight oil,
    so the ride does not become too harsh over bumpy roads. We also
    increase the range of adjustment in the damping screws and fit bump
    springs to replace the hydraulic bump stops. The hydraulic bumps stops
    stop the forks bottoming out metal to metal, but they are very hard and
    harsh themselves. The spring bump stops are very smooth and
    progressive, so even if you do bottom out in an emergency, you should
    not notice. The whole fork conversion costs £300.00 + V.A.T and includes a
    service. Fork seals and bushes are extra, the seals are £24.00 + V.A.T a pair
    and the bushes cost £12.00 + V.A.T each.
    We also supply replacement needle valves for the compression damping
    adjusters. These increase the range of adjustment in the compression
    damping and also makes the range of adjustment finer. The replacement
    valves cost £60.00 + V.A.T a pair.
    If you race your bike we also supply our GP25 cartridge conversion for this
    model of fork. This costs £835.00 + V.A.T. For more details see the products
    page of our website – Maxton Suspension home page
    REAR
    The standard rear unit on the Fireblade is pretty good for the average
    rider weight and for most road uses. The problems may arise if you are
    above the average rider weight, ride the bike very hard or do track days.
    The rear unit will feel too soft causing the bike to sit down too much when
    exiting corners, making the bike run wide. The standard unit is also
    affected by heat as it is buried in the swing arm and runs very close to the
    exhaust, this means it never gets a chance to cool down. It is not possible
    to respring the original unit, all we can do is replace the unit.
    The replacement Maxton unit is a fully adjustable, alloy bodied, high
    pressure gas unit that adjusts via a shim stack. The unit has a spring to suit
    your rider weight and to suit what type of riding you do. The unit is suited
    to high temperatures because it adjusts via the shim stack not via a
    needle in a hole system. The unit costs £405.00 plus V.A.T but we also
    make a piggy back remote reservoir unit that has a second compression
    adjuster and ride height adjustment which costs £550.00 plus V.A.T. For
    racing we also make a GP7 unit with High, Medium and Low speed
    compression damping, this costs £670.00 + V.A.T.
     
  8. dan.1moore1

    dan.1moore1 Senior Member

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    I thought you needed a tool to compress the springs ?
     
  9. megawatt

    megawatt Well-Known Member

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    You need spring compressors or a jig to remove the rear shock spring. To remove the fork springs, just do em one at a time, undo all the preload and unscrew the fork top nut. There's a little bit of tension still in the spring , but not much. I usually put a rag over the top nut and hold it while turning the top nut just before it comes out. To unload both forks a bit more, you have to put it on the paddock stands.
     
  10. scratcher

    scratcher Active Member

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    After doing a bit more reserch it looks like DIY revalving on the front and back is a bit to much for the me. Think I will try changing the fork springs for my weight and putting some fresh 7.5 fork oil in. As for the the back shock I think might look for a cheap Nitron unit.
     
  11. megawatt

    megawatt Well-Known Member

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    I put Ohlins linear springs in my RRW forks, but they were too soft. I took the bike to Steve Jordan Racing and he made spacers and set the front end and rear up. Rear is a Nitron Road/Race shock, £250 on eBay. Handling was brilliant after that. Nitron is the best improvement on my bike.
     
  12. scratcher

    scratcher Active Member

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    Thanks for that mate. A new Nitro looks the best part of £600 for the road/track one. Keep my eyes open for an ebay bargain me thinks.
     
  13. flatstickHRC

    flatstickHRC Active Member

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    Why not send your forks and shock to k tech or mct and get a revalve. Will be in the region of 600 for revLve and spring.
     
  14. Bats

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    Why dont you just read my earlier post??
     
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    flatstickHRC Active Member

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    Who me? I have read it and you recommended maxton.

    I didn't as I've never used them. I recommend mct or Ktech as I have used them.

    Saying that Ktech won't give you any set up support whatsoever.
     

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