190/50 or 55 profile

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  1. bandit_287

    bandit_287 Active Member

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    Sorry for the question that I'm sure has been posted a million times before, I tried using the search but as you know entering the word 'tyres' brings up so many posts to sift through.

    Just noticed I'm going to need a new rear Dunlop sportsmart sport max on the rear of my 04rr and currently I have a 190/50. I've heard that using a 55 profile tyre gives better handling and inspires more confidence? I've also upgraded the rear sprocket from a 40 to a 42 tooth so my speedo will be ever so slightly out. I'm guessing that by using a 55 profile will not only give me better handling but will more than likely correct the speedo?

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Many thanks.
     
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  2. BoroRich

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    I had a 190/50 Metzeler M3 on my RR4 and then switched to a Pilot Power 2CT in 190/55 and I liked it. I wouldn't go back I don't think.

    Just feels more flickable and agile.
     
  3. iang27

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    Went from the standard 50 profile to Rosso Corsa's in 55 profile, much better ride in my opinion.
     
  4. Moily

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    I'm also looking at moving to a 55 profile. Do you need a speedohealer if moving up from a 50 to a 55 with no other changes to sprockets, etc?
     
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    The Speedo will be even more accurate using a 55 as the standard one over reads by some margin so the bigger circumference of the 55 helps bring that error down.

    Much better handling also.
     
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  6. The.kickboxer

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    The 55 will not correct the sprocket change difference, been there and done it, although i dropped a tooth on the front. I found the 55 to be more tippy, so much so it made riding in a strait line feel odd due to the sensitivity of it. Now feels normal now i am used to it. Far more confidence inspiring with the extra rubber on the tarmac when lent over, wheelies at 75degrees coming out of corners on my Conti Sport Attack2's not a problem.
     
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    That's 'Wheelie' angle and not cornering lean angle for anyone not sure! ;)
     
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    I was just thinking, 75degress would mean you were off and sliding up the road !
     
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    Marquez & Co only just manage 60 degrees!
     
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  10. Great Guy

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    I have gone from a 50 to 55 on a 2009 Blade. Fantastic ride quality, much better on bends. I use Pirelli DRC'S. No need for a speed healer.
     
  11. t0m541

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    I went from a 190/50 DRC to a 200/55 Supercorsa recently on my Blade, the extra height on the rear has made the bike much more agile for sure.
    My old Suzuki has a 25mm lift on the rear and 5mm drop on the forks and is really flickable but very stable in a straight line at high speed and, TBH, whilst the Blade is a league above in performance and cornered well I have now realised how lazy to turn it was, needing to be hauled over, rather than a light flick.
    Since going over to the 200/55's it seems to be getting there in the turns, maybe a drop on the forks is an option....but will wait till the tyres are fully scrubbed before going taking that decision, plus they're only on till Oct/Nov when the PR4's in 190/55 will be getting fitted for winter and the wetter days.
     
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    Winter and Wetter Day's?

    That's what the Cars for! :eek:
     
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    Just a reminder !

    Approval revoket for 55er tyres in Germany

    The following tyre manufactures revoked the approval
    for the 55er tyres on the ABS Fireblade in Germany .

    - Continental ContiSportAttack 2 & Street - 55er ( including NON-ABS Version )
    - Michelin Pilot Power & 2CT, Power Pure - 55er ( except NON-ABS Version )
    - Pirelli Supercorsa SP, Diablo Rosso Corsa - 55er ( except NON-ABS Version )

    The reason is, that Honda ( GE ) did not approved it because it could cause an ABS issue.

    A German Motorcycle Magazine ( Motorrad ), tested in 2009 most of the 55er tyres on a ABS Fireblade and they didn’t have any issues at all.
    The test guy was IDM-Superbiker Arne Tode.
     
  14. Remal

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    after people said try 55 over a 50 profile I took the plunge and glad I did

    Never looked back

    Not had any issues with my ABS blade using a 55
     
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  15. BlackDevil

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    Ordered a 55er today. I hope you guys are right...
     
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    Honda will blame anything apart from their lack of R&D of there abs electronics :rolleyes: wait for it dudes the memo saying your cleaning products you use could have a detrimental effect on your abs performance :p or are you a Tetley or a Yorkshire Tea man as the flavour of you piss will cause servo failure :D

    Yeah I know I'm a sarcy twat :D
     
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  17. BlackDevil

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    I dont care what Honda says but the insurance might think different if something happened even if it has
    nothing to do with tyres.
    I had a track day in Silverstone ( 20.05. ) and my 50er tyre worked fine for me.
    Anyway, I ordered a 55er now and I will see how it goes.
     
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    Very true mate! Just make sure you let MCE know ;). I'm definitely have myself 55's next time round :)
     
  19. RepsolPaul

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    I ordered my tyres on Monday and read this just after, I did read a lot on here about the 50 or 55 debate,
    In the end I bought Michelin PR4's in the end in 190/50 profile.

    It rides better than I can ever push it even with the Dunlop Sportmax 2 tyres on it, so with the PR4's it should be a step up, dunlop a wasn't worn out but would be during
    our motogp Mugello trip next week.

    Roll on Tuesday !!!
     
  20. RepsolPaul

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    And for £209 delivered from tyreleader.co.uk, which was a heads up from a forum member off here !
     
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