Advice on braided pipes for ABS blade

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  1. tgosai

    tgosai Member

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    hi, any one got any experience with fitting braided pipes to an ABS blade?
    R&G are selling a kit specifically for the ABS model, and im having a nightmare with the brakes using stock set up, levers coming all the way to the bar and not stopping as quick as i would want it to etc.
    Hoping a set of braided pipes will solve it, just need to figure if its more difficult due to the ABS system.

    Aprecaite any feedback
     
  2. stevebetts

    stevebetts Well-Known Member

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    Hi. Fitting braided hoses will not fix this fault. Do a search on ABS issues.
     
  3. ColinBR

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    First thing to do is to make sure the brakes are properly bled.
    As Steve says it doesn't sound like a line problem. If you have recently had the brakes done/serviced, then I'd say it would be air in the system. If not it could well be the control unit. A few on here have had the unit replaced under warranty.
     
  4. tgosai

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    thanks, yeah ive read through all the threads on ABS and im getting mixed messages,some say there's no problem but other swear thees a major issue.
    I've just got the bike bike from honda chiswick, they've checked it over and apperently there's nothing wrong with the brakes. But on my short ride home i could bring the levers all the way back to the bars.
    I changed the pipes on my previous gsxr and it felt solid after the change, so thought the same again will help, the blade brakes feels very sub standard, hence the question on fitting new pipes.
     
  5. tgosai

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    is it normal for the levers to come all the way to the bar ? is that a trait of the controller unit failing ?
     
  6. ColinBR

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    It can also be air in the system mate. As said make sure they are bled correctly first. Main area to bled is at the master cylinder as I had a nightmare bleeding mine until I realised there was a bleed needle there.

    Failing that then the control unit is most likely the suspect. Having just bought the bike though I would be taking it back to them to get it sorted, letting them know that you know about the control unit issues.

    Oh and the lever coming back to the bar is not the norm by any means.
     
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  7. thezipsteruk

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    Ive not got braided on me ABS but I had them on the old blade and they gie a firmer feel.

    regarding the ABS problem, I used to get the lever back to the bar occasionally. I found it wa because I was feathering, holding the lever.
    now i leave the buggers alone until i need them ON, then go for em...wether its coincidence or not but they aint come back to the bar once since I've been firmer with them.
     
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  8. Swiss T

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    Take the abs fuse out. Its a 10amp (red) fuse which sits in the main fuse box under the front seat.

    You will find the yellow abs light on the dash will stay lit, but you will have conventional brakes i.e. not combined & not abs.

    If they still feel spongy, then I would guess it in indeed air. If they feel better, then I would suspect the modulator or another component & return it to Honda to sort it. Don't be put off if they act like its the first problem they have heard of; do you homework first!

    You may have a bike which they have taken as part ex. They may know about a problem but equally they may not if the "part exer" kept quiet (as you do).

    Good luck.
     
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  9. tgosai

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    this is great feedback, thanks everyone
     
  10. stevebetts

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    As others have said, don't let the dealer fob you off.
    I sold an ABS blade after 6weeks in part because of the ABS problems.
    Dealers always seem to look surprised and have never heard of the problem before (bo????ks).
    Swiss T has the best test scenario IMO.
    There is a big divide in pro and anti ABS in the blade community. Basically, if you experience the issues, you will not be a happy bunny and vice versa.
    My Honda dealer went down the bleeding route. Some say this fixes it for a short while then comes back. In the end, I had no confidence that the bike would stop when I pulled the lever so I sold it and got a non ABS.
    It is all about personal experience.
     
  11. thezipsteruk

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    alternatively! if you dont want to get your fingers dirty taking out fuses, a simple Wheelie will make you ABS spaz out and it will turn off (flashing abs light on dash) and then you have conventional brakes until next ignition on.
    :D simple
    I believe its something to do with the 2 wheels spinning at different speeds causes it to error, so it turns off for safety! lol
     

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