Bit of advice pls

O.k so I'm new to the blade and want to start enhancing it, performance wise I think it is about right but could do with a bit of electrickery which brings me to my question

Bazazz with t.c

Or

PCV with seperate quick shifter ?


Initially I was thinking bazzaz but then in hindsight I'm not so sure now.

Which are the easiest to install and setup ?

Is traction control actually necessary as the bike does handle exceptionally well.

I've looked around the forum and people tend to have one or the other, the people with the bazazz swear by them and the people with Pcv plus hm quick shifter swear by them

I'm looking for a non biased opinion based on experience with both please

Thanks

 

HM Plus SH quickshifter is the only way to go quickshifter wise IMO and I'm going to run my Akrapovic without a PCV this time to see if it makes any difference.

Also add Dyno time to either to get a custom map done as both my previous bikes were off fueling wise with power commanders generic maps

 

Thanks gents, think I'm going to go down the hm quick shifter / pcv route. A guy I know has his own dyno in his garage (real popular with the neighbors) so getting that side of things set up isn't the issue more a case of me not being keen on fairing removal haha

 

Hi mate no fairing removal needed for PCV just the tank cover and tilting it up to run the wires from the injectors. I know everyone swears by HM quickshifters but you can get the Dynojet one that works well with the PCV and ignition modules etc but I was actually recommended to get the Codoba QS as that can be taken off and used on any bike in the future saving buying a new one each time you change bikes. The QS thing is a bit like the HEL braided lines, 3 other makes of braided lines are equally as good as the HEL ones if not better.

People go with what is popular and what they like. My braided lines are Venhills and QS wise I haven't picked yet but am hearing lots of good things about the Dynojet one so we will see.

One thing for sure is I ain't no sheep!

 

I had a PCV and HM QS on my 08 bike, soon I'll be picking up a '13 plate bike and wil be sticking a PCV and either a HM or cordona QS, both can be taken from one bike to another, but I've heard good things with cordona and would like a change ( also I can get the cordona a bit cheaper )

I've had a bazzaz ysstem with TC, QS and AFM module on my gsxr 600 K9 and didn't really like it to be honest, didn't rate the TC to well, the QS was ok, but if you change shifting, you need another sensor ( 150-200£ )... Bazzaz is also harder to find someone to tune it

 

As said DJ QS needs the ignition module so bumps the cost, it also uses a switch to sense the shift as does Bazzaz, thus is fundamentally flawed IMO as HM and Cordona use strain gauges that are programmable to detect exactly when to shift. HM and Cordona also have programmable kill time and direction of shift, unlike Bazzaz etc where a PUSH or PULL sensor is required. HM can be used on most other bikes with a different loom.
Bazzaz TC looks for engine spikes or peaks in revs and try's to smooth them out, it's not true wheel speed traction control like Nemissis for example. Bazzaz does map all 8 injectors however the dyno opp does not have direct control over the uppers, unlike PCV when used with the secondary fuel module that lets the uppers be mapped separately from the lowers, there is little gain if any with a stock blade mapping the uppers.

 

I'm gonna make an obvious statement here and say Arthur clearly knows more than me!

 

We are a collective mate One big team

I have a HM Quickshifter and love it, plus the people at HM are great! Once you fit one you'll never want a bike without one.



Ain't that right Jamie

 

Agree with Arthur, a bike without a qs feels a bit sluggish and basic.

Hm user here - feels a proper bit of kit. Also being able to move from bike to bike makes it a good long term investment with just the loom and maybe rod to swap if needed

 

That's right Arthur you Cannot live without one it becomes second nature and the sound is so addictive

 

Thanks Guys,

I will go via the pcv plus quick shifter route, cost wise abt the same but at least it can be done in 2 parts instead of justifying a £600 outlay to the better half in one go hahaha

Gonna go do bit of shopping now