Forgive me fellas this isn't about a Blade, I need help urgently as I'm on a trackday Wednesday, leaving home Tuesday afternoon. I have just attempted an oil change on my R6, something I've done a few times before so I know what I'm doing "ish", on undoing the sump bolt, pulling it back towards me and the back wheel (anticlockwise) it felt a little stiff, so I gave it a bit of force, it freed up and then just span round and round without ever coming out. Thinking to myself this can't be right I started turning it towards the front wheel (clockwise) and voila out it drops. Here's the problem, i'll let the pictures do the talking the thread on the bolt looks ok, I think I've stripped the internals of the sump, what do I do now please ? got a panic on as I need it ready for Tuesday edit... sitting and thinking about it, I obviously got my clock and anti clock mixed up ..arrgghhh what do I do please fellas need advice asap
there is only one proper way to do this .. you will have to get a "helicoil "set from a tool supplier which involves using the drill in the set and the thread tap and helical insert (new thread insert). They are not cheap to buy (about £50 at a guess) and you need to know what you are doing so that you don't ruin the sump fitting one. Most bike repair shops should have them in their workshops , i would advise taking the bike to a shop or removing the sump and taking that for them to carry out the repair for you ,as the price of an hours labour will be the same as the price of the tools
My mate did the same thing he had to buy a tap n die to make a slightly bigger thread. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-74...e7&clk_rvr_id=888169008120&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true
Ring round the local bike shops , the little ones as they tend to lend out tools. Ask if they have a sump plug tap , these are to tap out the thread one size larger without the need for drilling and then buy a oversized sump plug. Done loads in the past , quite a common issue with Suzukis so try eBay for a oversize plug there first.
Unfortunately on this occasion ebay will not be your friend if you need it by Tuesday. If you are competant i would remove the sump and get it on a bench to helicoil or "Tap & Die" it, i wouldn't do it in-situ as one wrong move will knacker the sump completely so you need a good working position to attempt it. I know it can be done in situ but that is by people who do it regularly and know exactly what they are doing and have the bike up in the air on a lift etc. If it were me i would be tempted to locate a new Sump and just replace it as like already mentioned it will probably be the same price roughly as buying the tools and you don't have the worry that you might not get it sealed fully and end up with a leaking Sump plug or worse still blow the plug and dump all your oil which isn't ideal on a track for you or other riders. Where are you located? if you are in London i know someone that may have a Sump for an R6 as he breaks bikes for a living. he is based in Watford.
You may have to double check, but the thread size could/should be the same as a large spark plug, M16 if memory serves. Double check using a spark plug (if you have one), if it is then you have a better chance of getting a spark plug thread repair kit, possibly somewhere like Halfrauds, motor factors or tool shops...or even Google engine rebuilders/tuners garages local to you and ask if they have a kit...
Thanks for all your advice fellas, have taken it to a small local shop, he's going to cut a new thread, I did ask if I would need an oversized sump plug or if there was the possibility of a leak, as the last thing anyone wants is a fine mist of oil on the back wheel. He said no possibility of that as he will insert some wire in and around the new thread making it 100% does this sound right to you ? and how do I stand on future oil changes, will this be a problem, apologies if this is all simple stuff to you guys, but it's all new to me. Have to admit I'm very tempted to buy a second hand sump, however that won't be doable before Tuesday
Sounds like he's suggesting a helicoil as per the 1st reply. That'll be fine If he does a good job and will torque up just fine.
Could also be a time-sert repair.....? http://www.crosstools.com.au/time-sert-thread-repair---helicoil-alternative.html
He's not competent is he, if he didn't know which way to turn the sump bolt! My advice - buy a Blade ... only kidding around - you're advice gets my vote, better to replace the sump from a knackers yard, much easier
