It's alive 2016 Sp engine swap in a 2010 frame..

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  1. Blackngold

    Blackngold New Member

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    Great news for me today, my 2010 had a catastrophic engine fail back in April, ( there's a thread about it) so had to weigh up rebuild or replace, so I went down the replace route as I was informed and advised my the technician at Parkitt Performance Motorcycles and tuning that there was alot of copper shrapnel in the sump and that ment that it had most likely spun a shell and there was a very very high chance the crank was toast.
    Soo that was my que to start hunting for a replacement engine, with very few/no 2010 engines being available I started to research newer year engine that would fit, I posted on here and on FB and I was informed by a few individuals that any engine between 2008 & 2016 would be a direct fit with very little or no modifications needed, So I began the hunt.
    It took a few weeks but a low milage 2016 sp engine popped up and I jumped on it.
    Well today is the day the start button was pressed, and it fired up first time it's been power ran on the dyno with no issues at all running on a SP custom map flashed to the ecu and now it's kicking out a rather respectable 175bhp at the rear.
    The only modification that needed to be done was the 2016 has a 6 pin plug for the gear indicator on the dash, where as the 2010 just has a neutral light, so the technician Tony just needed to find out which of the 6 pins was neutral and run off that.

    All in all its easy process, and I just wanted to relay that it is a easy do if anyone ever has a engine fail...

    Big super thanks to Neil and Tony at "Parkitt Performance Motorcycle Racing" in tuxford Lincolnshire you guys are amazing at what ya do.

    https://parkittracing.co.uk/

    the shakedown dyno run

     
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  2. edderby

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    Brilliant news - well done, that’s great!

    I’ve been following your story as I have a 2008 model and one day my crank could fail too, so it’s great to know about your success.

    Hopefully you’ll be riding it again in a day or two!
     
  3. Coda

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    And you could always glue 6 purple leds on your dash and connect them to the spare pins in that connector - and have your own gear indicator a la some 1980s bikes
     
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    Nice write up, would you mind sharing approximate costs? Intial diagnosis costs, motor replacement & labour install costs? It will give others an idea what things will cost when the motor fails.
     
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  5. Stuart Gould

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    Top job, read your other thread just a few days ago so great to get a positive update. Happy that its all sorted and you now have a 16SP powered bike. Enjoy!!
     
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  6. Blackngold

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    So the cost of diagnosis was integrated in the over all labour cost that was for engine out, diagnosed issue and engine in and fluids and a shakedown on the dyno, that came to £700..
    I manage to pick up the engine for £2500 but its a SP and super low milage, I could have gone a little cheaper with more miles but now this is a forever bike to me so did it right...
     
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  7. Boothman

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    Glad you got sorted. Here’s where I show my ignorance - Is there any difference between a std and SP engine? I thought it was more trick bits in the suspension and brakes and lightweight rear frame o_O

    I’ll let @CharlieR85 or such bare my lack of knowledge to amuse all :D:D
     
  8. edderby

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    I think the SPs were blueprinted
     
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  9. Blackngold

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    Yeah it's a blueprint engine which to my knowledge means hand built and critically balanced and weighed components and is very very smooth.
    The rest of a SP bike was tricked out too sus and brakes etc...
     
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  10. CharlieR85

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    The SP had its pistons and conrods selected to meet the centre of the weight tolerance and match eachother in weight as close as possible ....(blueprinting).

    I watched a YouTube video of BMW engine assembly once and the automated system delivered the pistons etc having already weighed and sorted them into batches very cool.

    Stands to reason you could get lucky and get a very very close batch of pistons/conrods on a standard bike too.
     
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  11. Coda

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    Thanks. It makes a lot more sense now why the SP bike is about 4 grand more than the common-or-garden variety.
     
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  12. edderby

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    I know how you feel. I’ve owned mine for 13 years and am still very fond of it
     
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  13. CharlieR85

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    I think the extra money was still the suspension and brakes tbh. It would only have been a case of selecting the most balanced components before assembly in the factory. To get it done to an assembled/used engine would be expensive, you'd have to strip, measure, machine then re-assemble.
     
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    I had the 2016 sp and and standard 16 blade at the same time, and rode them back to back for a couple of years and there was a noticible difference between the engines. Well worth the money for the blueprinted one.
     
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