Currently sat on the M5 northbound waiting for the breakdown rescue. CBR1000RR 04 Bike just lost all power, started with the dash disappearing then no lights etc and then finally the engine died. It sounds to me like the stator again. I had it rewound last year and done approx 5k since it was re-fitted. It was done by West Country Windings. It's a known common fault with this model to have a dodgy stator/flywheel so I'm thinking if it is infact the same problem if I re-wind the stator again and fit it into the original flywheel it's just going to burn up again so I'm aware that Honda had an upgraded component they fitted so was it 2006 that the upgraded flywheel was fitted? If so them I will try and get a second hand 06 flywheel and re-wind my stator. Anybody advise?
Sorry to hear about your breakdown mate! I can't help with advise on the problem but I'm sure someone will be along to advise
I did have a similar issue before come to think of it, it was the fuse up behind the battery had furred up!
Just being towed home now. I'll have a look when I'm back but think its the stator again. P.s. big up to the lady who slowed down and threw me a carton of orange juice lol
Just got home, I've just checked the battery voltage and its 12.93v across the terminals. That should be enough power to fire it up right?
After I got mine rewind by 'West country Windings' she was as sweet as a nut no battery issues at all!
when mine went i bought the matched pair (flywheel and stator). at over £300 i can see why people dont buy genuine! about 8 months down the line i got the same symptoms too. mine would flah on the dash, pop and bang out of the exhaust then not restart. turns out the second time it was my reg rec unit. there was no way i was gonna pay £220 + vat for that too! 12.93 should be enough to start yours, you could always link it to a bigger car battery to see if it cranks? if not it could be an earth cable worked loose??
danidge has a good point, I did replace my Reg/rec at same time. easy peasy job and mine was only £40..but it was a RRV 1997
The stator & windings on the 06/07 are slightly smaller in output and the gap between the flywheel and windings was increased.
Well I've just out the battery on charge for an hour and the indicator on the charger showed full, voltage across the terminals was mid 13's started it up and this dropped to 12.7 and didn't increase in voltage as it was revved up so it looks like the stator had fried again. Haggler, if I got the flywheel from an 06 and got my 04 stator re-wound again would it work or would I need the stator and flywheel from the later bike?
How many miles has the bike done? On my 04 the stator went after about 30k, so got it rewound by West Country, that only lasted another few thousand miles, so went to my local Honda Dealer who fitted an uprated stator and flywheel under an extended warranty that Honda did on the item. It was still ok at 65k when I sold it. A mate who had an 07 got his stator replaced by his dealer for the same or similar problem. So not sure you getting an 06 flywheel and stator will help. Check your local Honda dealer, and see what they say.
Interestingly I've just been checking back through bike paperwork and it had a stator repair in September 2010 at 7979 miles at Grahams motorcycles in Taunton, this has lasted until approx 13k and now it's gone again. It's obviously not had the upgraded Honda replacement then.
Seems you do need to speak nicely to your local Honda dealer. The list price of the new stator and flywheel is very expensive, so I would be looking at other options.
Hey, Sorry to hear about your breakdown but I wouldn't just jump to the conclusion that the stator is at fault because it has happened before I would still spend the time to check the whole charging system on the bike! I also thought that WCW upgraded the winding wire to create an upgraded stator, this is defanately the case with the suzuki stators they rewind.
Thanks everybody for the replies, I haven't had time to strip it down for a full diagnosis but it's pointing again to the stator being burnt out. WCW do a great job and as far as I'm led to believe, it's the flywheel that causes the issue as it's too close to the stator and the magnets are too powerful for the stator to handle and in hot weather and pootling along the stator simply burns up. I'm going to check with a Honda dealer near me as this is the third time it's gone now, if they won't help I'll have to just take a bath and buy the uprated stator/flywheel combo at a ludicrious price no doubt! There doesn't seem to be much sense getting my stator re-wound again and putting it back into the bike as it's only going to happen again ifI use the same flywheel. Anybody else have any suggestions?
As unhelpful as it probably is there are stator/reg/rec sets for approx £100 on Evilbay. May not be uprated but it'll get you back on the road again.
I've just had a chat with my Honda Dealer and he said that the chances are Honda won't honour the recall after this length of time but he said to ring back on Monday and have a chat with the service dept and see if they can do anything for me. He's given me a price for the new uprated stator and flywheel and it's coming up on his system as £281.00 plus VAT each! However he said that there is some ambiguity with the part numbers and it may well be that the two components are priced as a bundle together at £281.00 Plus VAT, which would be more welcome. I need to get the bike to my mechanic on Monday for a proper diagnosis and if it is infact the same stator issue then I'll have to order up the new components regardless of price I guess.
