knee Injuries and pain

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  1. phantom

    phantom Active Member

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    so I have been talked into doing the belfast marathon as
    part of a relay team.the problem is I have now been selected
    as lead runner and have a 7.5 mile run and so far I have only
    been training distances of four miles.It gets better still as I
    tried on monday to go further but I have had problems with
    pain behind my knee, reading up I think its the popliteus muscle
    giving me grief.I was thinking of a three hinged support to help
    reduce lateral movement and knee pain but not sure if this will
    work, has anyone any experience with this type of pain/injury ??
     
  2. martinowen

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    Ok slightly different but I have had problems with knee pain for the last 8 years resulting in several operations. Over the years I have seen several knee specialists and often asked the question about knee supports, the all came up with the same answer - to get a decent knee support you need a professional custom made one costing upwards of 1k, however they still advised me not to do this as they basically pull the knee cap etc at different angles or closer/further out etc and can cause problems like uneven ware. This could then make the condition of your knee worse or create a new problem on top of the existing issues!

    Hope that makes sense and helps you in some way
     
  3. kpone

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    If it was me Ciaran, I'd have it diagnosed before I tried strapping it, just in case it compounds the injury.
     
  4. paul-b

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    If your prone to knee injuries I would seriously question doing a marathon ! Depends on your age but you may just take your injury to whole new unwanted level ..... :(
     
  5. SIDEWAYS

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    I have a knee that gives me pain too.Mine was a dislocation with the ball part pushed round to the side of the knee.I have been told to cycle more or use an excersize bike to strengthen the knee without putting too much stress on it.Running is very stressful on a damaged knee.I have got it up to two miles running before it protests with an aching pain behind the knee and a needle pain in the front.It was initually 1/2 a mile then 1 1/2 miles so it is working using the excersize bike.I would try and strengthen it before you go.Marathons are not good for knees, you could do more damage than good on a weak knee.
     
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    I have a knee replacement. Basically if you have a bad knee, Don,t run.
     
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  7. phantom

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    I do loads of cycling and never have knee problems but my reason
    For strapping was the problem that it looks like I have happens on
    Downhill runs only so its the popliteus muscle pulling the leg out
    Of line then thats where the pain comes in.says most get it from
    Years of walking with bad form so one ligament is stronger than
    The other loading up the popliteus too much. I was hoping I
    Could get the extra few miles with support, no running after this
    As this was a one off for a children's ward.
     
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    +1
     
  9. sinewave

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    Yep, running causes high 'impact' loads on ya knee joint, the heavier U R the worse it is.

    Cycling Good!

    Running Bad!

    For anyone who suffers from joint pains at the knee from wear & tear like me from Sparking then get these down ya neck every night with a glass of red, works wonders! :D

    Glucosamine | Glucosamine Gel, Glucosamine Capsules | Holland & Barrett

    Stand on me, they work miracles, especially if combined with Cod Liver oil tablets as well!;)
     
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    A workmate did a charity run, hurt his ankle, but carried on, for charity. Took 6 months to sort it.
     
  11. slasherr

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    You may benefit from running gait analysis to determine if you have a neutral, stance or suffer from over or under pronation (angle of foot fall I think). The feedback provided may help with selecting appropriate running shoes, if you have a sweatshop store locally they may be able to arrange this on your behalf.

    As Megawatt suggests fish oil and Glucosamine & chondroitin may also provide furher benefits.

    Unfortunately this did not resolve my knee problems, I have attempted to run but can only make 25 mins on a treadmill before needing to stop but I think my knees are made of cheese. For now I mainly cycle and row for cardio.

    Hope you find something that works for you.
     
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  12. phantom

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    Ops...the things you do for charity. Well done a run tonight and it's a 3 mile
    Pain wall . walking and running I managed Just under four miles before I had to stop.
    I think I'll have to jog four walk 3.5 :s
    Thing is as soon as I stop running the pain stops instantly.
     
  13. Swiss T

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    I run a bit with a history of knee injury (old army injury). I'm not going to try & guess your problem or tell you what to do, but I have experienced the swelling behind the knee a few times; usually when I push just that bit harder. In my case, it's fluid build up & I try not to pay it much mind; it calms down eventually. I have used lots of over the counter braces & found the neoprene ones with Velcro straps very helpful.

    Good luck with your stint.
     
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    Whoops. Double post.
     
  15. Freedom of choice

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    I used to have a membership to a private gym when I was still with the ex-wife (ok mostly reading the weekend papers by the pool on my part) but when I did go on the treadmill my left knee gave out before my lungs (bearing in mind I smoke Gauloise) due to an old RD250 crash when I was 17 this came as a surprise. The fit as a butchers dog training guy had a look and said you need to take care, you push that knee and you will have bit issues in later life, so I added the sauna and steam room to my fitness regime instead but not before I had read the papers though as they got very soggy in the steam room.
    Mate you need to take the advice of professionals. Oh and while I think about it, the fitter my ex-wife got in the gym the more staying power she had when she went on top. So it was not all bad news.
     
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    I have a dodgy knee but not running isn't really an option in my career. My knee issues are caused by Iliotibial band syndrome: Iliotibial band syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It basically gets tight and pulls the knee out of alignment. I'd highly recommend speaking to a physio to get it diagnosed properly as knees are complicated and if you don't sort it out in the right way it will cause more issues. I use a sports roller on an almost daily basis and warm up/down properly with lots of stretching.
     
  17. phantom

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    So I found out what my problem is.i never thought about
    The fact my sister was a manager of a sports shop and had
    One if them run scanners until she reminded me.well it ends
    Up I have an over pronating left foot which is why I get the pain
    In my knee.she also told me my puma, nike and , new balance
    Training shoes are all a load of cr@p and I need asics instead
    So got my new shoes designed for over pronation and gave them
    A try.taking my time not to do too much at once I managed 5.5 miles
    In 54mins which is great as before I could hardly walk by the 3 mile
    Stage and had to give up just at the four mile mark.
    She also said the hinged leg support could help but a few trial
    Runs with it are needed first and ICE after runs to cool the muscle.
     
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    so 12 days to go and im excited and nervous at the same
    time.this will kill me but feck it, its all for a good cause.
    I will just hang up my running shoes after this and stick to
    the mountain biking.
     
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