OEM Dunlop Qualifier 2

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  1. Shutty

    Shutty Well-Known Member

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    Just coming up to 2000 miles, I don't rag the arse off it and yes there is a chicken strip, but I don't sit doing motorway straights either round the North Yorkshire moors, but over last 500 miles I'm getting a real sliding feel from rear as if the rear tyre is steering round the corner and the rear tyre feels like it has a camber edge on the right side, rather than one smooth arc shape

    Should a rear only last 2000miles, I've never replaced one before, the bike always went before the tyre. I thought I could run the rest of the summer but it's starting to become unnerving on right corners

    What's a decent tyre, do I stick one more rear Dunlop on as the frt looks fine or replace frt and rear and get rid of them

    I guess this is well discussed but can't remember how the arc of the tyre felt when new, but can feel an edge now

    Thanks
     
  2. And7rp2

    And7rp2 Elite Member

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    you've just opened a can of worms !!!!!!!
    2000 miles out of OEM dunlops is ok about right.
    that said they aren't the best tyres out there, and a like for like tyre change will be a better tyre than the ones supplied to the manufacturer, but better in terms of grip, not mileage.
    depends on your riding and the conditions you ride in ( commuting or playing ?).
    Most modern tyres are very good , make sure if your after good mileage go for a tyre that is dual compound ( harder in the middle softer on the edges) and the choices are vast, from experience the Michelin pilot road 4's last the longest and are excellent in the wet, but look like tractor tyres !!!
    I can strongly recommend Metzeler M7RR's not bad in terms of mileage about 3.5k and excellent in both the dry & wet.
     
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  3. Simon_HRC

    Simon_HRC Active Member

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    Those Dunlops are dangerous! Everyone changes them. Metzeler M7RR or Pirelli Supercorsas are the only tyres you'll ever need
     
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  4. Shutty

    Shutty Well-Known Member

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    No commuting, just weekend play about, will get out most of year though but I'm hardly on the edge of the tyre, would be happy with 3.5k if it kept its shape, just has a hump I can feel with my hand more on the right shoulder and I'm sure it's that, that I'm feeling
     
  5. red5

    red5 Well-Known Member

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    Ditch the Dunlop ditch finders..... as previously said they're bloody lethal they ruin an otherwise perfect bike, I found them too unpredictable, I was having too many oh shit moments.
    Totally transformed my blade after fitting pr4's though.
     
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  6. Dave dunlop

    Dave dunlop Elite Member

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    Totally dreadful tyres them Dunloops! Bordering on dangerous when you start pushing on a little! Get some decent hoops on and it will transform the bike and your confidence levels...
     
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  7. Shutty

    Shutty Well-Known Member

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    Its quite interesting as i have never had other than OEM tyres as i worked for Honda and swapped the bike every1000miles/4mths.

    Thinking about it last year my first own bike (08 blade) was far better but was on different tyres and i thought it was all down to the suspension set up.

    Are PR4's that much better than 3's as they do look a bit "full wet" tyre but happy to go with that if they work as i do like to get out iver winter when all the tourists have left North Yorkshire

    Thanks all, last 24hrs been a massive learning curve on tyres.
     
  8. Lozzy

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    Those OEM tyres are horrible especially in the wet.
    If you're riding all year & want a good all round tyre you can't go far wrong with either PR4''s, Dunlop sportsmart2''s or the M7rr.
    I've used all three & do high mileage all year round.
    You'll get the most mileage out of the PR4, but I've also had 6000 out of the rear sportsmart2. Somewhat less out of the M7rr but theyre a great tyre as well.
     
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  9. red5

    red5 Well-Known Member

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    You need to look behind the tread pattern of the pr4's, why would you want old tech pr3's?
    On my previous blade I ran supercorsas, a superb tyre until the envitable happens and the heavens open and you have to tippy toe home.....no problem with the pr4's sure footed come rain or shine.
     
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  10. Nickw

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    I've just changed over onto PR4's having had about 8 years on Pilot Power 2ct's.
    Always ditched the Dunlops as soon as I could....
    One of my reasons for changing was that I now have to pay for my own tyres and wanted something that would last me a bit longer without compromise.
    I'm well chuffed so far with the PR4's. Used the full tyre up to the edges and it remains well planted. The tyres can sometimes feel a little slower to turn in to corners than some of the others quoted but you just plan it differently and put a bit more of your own rider input into the bike.
    Ditch the Dunlops.....
    Sounds like a campaign that doesn't it :D
     
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  11. Shutty

    Shutty Well-Known Member

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    #ditchthedunlops

    Im converted there going
     
  12. Reddevil007

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    Totally agree that the oe dunlops are utter shite. Mine is in thursday having new boots even though the dunlops have plenty left in them. No confidence at all. Sometimes feels that tyre is flat yet pressures fine. Worst tyre I have ever ridden on. Have some trips coming up so gone for a sport touring tyre. Slightly older design in the Pirelli Angel ST. Decent enough write ups and should get some decent mileage. Also decent price for a pair fitted
     
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  13. Wozza

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    Bridgestone s21 had s20 evo before then s20 where original all been good .....average 3.5k new s21 turn in quicker and have a even softer edge for corners , pr4 is a touring tyre that I would use in the winter.....
     
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  14. sinewave

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    Threw my OEM Qualifiers in the Bin at 350 miles from new after my first Wet Ride! :eek:

    PR4, M7RR, or Sportsmart 2 ;)

    All a Country Mile better all round. :cool:
     
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  15. Shutty

    Shutty Well-Known Member

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    Well tyres ordered. Went with the Metzeler's M7RR, not bad £213 from Tyreleader.co.uk

    Thanks for all the feedback, would have gone with the PR4's but whilst I ride almost all year it's rare it's in the wet, damp maybe, but not full on wet if I can avoid it and hence the Metzeler's

    Will report back once I have these Dunlops off
     
  16. Simon_HRC

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    Good choice! I have the Metzellers on at the moment, front has done 2 track days at Silverstone but had to change the rear for each one. Gonna try Supercorsas next although they won't last 1000 miles haha
     
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  17. Mattie660

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    Am I the only person on the forum that thought the original Dunlops were OK ?

    I rode them in the rain locally on smooth tarmac, and did that lovely section of twisty road from Alcaniz in Spain - 'kin awesome. Tyres seemed fine. Twisty roads over the mountains, and again with luggage, coming back from Aragon GP. They did autoroute speeds through a big rain shower in France, without squirming around.

    In the back of my mind I just remembered the Ron Haslam words of wisdom, something like - you can have lots of lean angle and lots of power, but not both at the same time - something like that !

    Anyway they did not last long, so replaced them with Bridgestone T30 Evos.

    Good luck with the new tryres.
     
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  18. exuptoy

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    Never had an issue with Qualifier 1's, not tried the 2's but after using Pirelli DRC's on the Street Triple and getting caught in the rain, the difference once I changed to the M7RR's was night and day, even if the change in profile was noticeable and slightly more neutral steering where the DRC's caught me out the first few times out on the bike, as they steered so quickly.
    For me though M7RR's all the way.
     
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    At the moment on my blade I have Bridgestone s21 which are great tyres in the dry and wet.
    I've certainly not had any scary moments in the 2000 miles I've had my blade for and I've been riding pretty hard around the corners.

    I'll most likely be changing them for Bridgestone T30 Evo for the winter unless people tell me this is a bad idea.
     
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