What should I do?

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by Stumoores, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. Stumoores

    Stumoores New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    13
    I bought my blade from a company in lancashire before Christmas. I needed to apply for a log book and get it MOT'd which I completed last week. Today I was putting all the new docs away and noticed a problem ! The recorded mileage history on the Mot form from the time before I MOT'd it reads 15800. The odometer reading on the bike is 10800 ? So I have 2 questions, how has this happened ? And secondly what should I do about it ? I like the bike and I've spent at least £200 getting it serviced and thru the mot. However I feel like I've been ripped off.
     
  2. Andy

    Andy Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    773
    Likes Received:
    378
    It could be a typo on the mileage when it was tested, easily done

    Do you have service history with the bike to back the mileage up ?

    Also if possible contact the previous owner and ask the question
     
  3. Pete H

    Pete H Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2013
    Messages:
    1,337
    Likes Received:
    747
    Might not be right on the mot form Stu. I had real grief with Kwikfit putting the wrong mileage on my car a couple of years ago. Got them to stamp and sign the mot certificate to correct the error, but the dvla system was impossible to get changed.

    Have you got the previous keepers details from the log, if you can get them to confirm miles that might help, chances are though that the dealer has a small print sentence somewhere that says mileage not guaranteed so you can't challenge the sale.

    What miles are shown on the service receipts?
     
  4. Slick

    Slick Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2012
    Messages:
    2,491
    Likes Received:
    1,241
    Yep I had service peeps record my trip meter as my Odo, ......but MOT 'should' get it right
     
  5. Stumoores

    Stumoores New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    13
    I have no history and I'm pretty sure it's not a typo. The mot shows about 5 odometer recordings 8, 10, 13, 15.2 then mine at 10800 ! I'm back at the dealers on Monday and want a plausible explanation and some money back ( it was advertised as a 10k mile bike)
     
  6. Andy

    Andy Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    773
    Likes Received:
    378
    You say a dealer ?
    A reputable dealer should not of sold you a bike without a current mot, what's the name of the dealer ?
     
  7. Stumoores

    Stumoores New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    13
    It's a well known vehicle dismantler, they have been great, I believe that they will not have known there was an issue. The question is what should I ask them to do about it ? And how did it happen ? I'm thinking that it must have had a new ecu as I can't believe the mileage is stored in the digital clocks.
     
  8. Alblade

    Alblade God Like

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2012
    Messages:
    4,031
    Likes Received:
    2,632
    Clocks hold mileage not the ECU
     
  9. Ratser

    Ratser Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2013
    Messages:
    1,401
    Likes Received:
    643
    Could be something simple like the clocks having needed to be changed after a short while.
    Which happened with my wife's older 600RR.
    MOT certificate and log book had a slightly higher mileage than was on the clock.
    Ask the dealership first rather than jumping to conclusions mate.
    Could be a very easy explanation.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Stumoores

    Stumoores New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    13
    I will, I'm going in on Monday for a new master cylinder off them. I will show them the mot cert and ask if they changed the clocks. I would settle for a power commander as compo ha ha
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Andy

    Andy Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    773
    Likes Received:
    378
    Don't give them the answer your looking for, just ask the question why the milage appears incorrect and see what answer they have
     
    • Like Like x 2
  12. r1monkey

    r1monkey Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2011
    Messages:
    697
    Likes Received:
    294
    you have paid a price for a 10k mile bike , the price you should have paid should be for a 15k bike .
    as each mile on average works out at 25p per mile on a bike (this is what i have noticed when looking for a bike ) so you are £1250 out of pocket.
    i know that hpi etc do not check the mileages , even though it is one of the easiest things to check by looking at old mot cert.
     
  13. Stumoores

    Stumoores New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    13
    Cheers for all the advice folks. I will just ask the question and see what they say.
     
  14. Hudson

    Hudson Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    Messages:
    811
    Likes Received:
    141
    You say its a reputable dealer but then say its a vehicle dismantler (ie a scrap yard),

    I tend to count dealers that only sell motorbikes (not crashed and as their sole business) and accessories as reputable dealers, i come from a background that looks for the negative first, this has stood me well over the years, i feel you may have been ripped off here. Good luck.
     
    #14 Hudson, Jan 26, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2014
  15. Kentblade

    Kentblade God Like

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2012
    Messages:
    3,031
    Likes Received:
    2,308
    Obviously something is not right, and you need an explanation and there is the potential here that he advert which you based your purchasing decision on being misleading, at the same time if the seller had no documentation, he will claim that he was acting honestly. Ignornace is no defence as we know, but it may take some hard discussion to resolve it.

    What you have not stated, was the MOT at 15K a year ago, or has there been a longer gap? Because although its entirely plausible that it has been clocked, normally lots of miles are wound off to make the operation worthwhile, if there has been a longer gap, then that leads to questions of where the bike was without a continuous MOT record, and I really don't feel that 5K would make £1250 difference, yes a little but not that much.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. Stumoores

    Stumoores New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ah your a tank half empty type then! I forgot to mention that I got it very cheap so the level of ripped offness is limited. I'm sure they will sort me out and I'm looking forward to getting out on it. It has made me think that their must be a fair few 3 year old bikes out there that are claiming very low miles when in fact it's only the clocks that have low miles on em.
     
  17. Kentblade

    Kentblade God Like

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2012
    Messages:
    3,031
    Likes Received:
    2,308
    In that case, you can't have your cake and eat, can you?

    On the one hand, you feel ripped off, now on the other, you stole it from them price wise.

    So what do you want from the deal then?
     
  18. r1monkey

    r1monkey Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2011
    Messages:
    697
    Likes Received:
    294
    i must add that £1250 is only an estimate ,thinking about it it may be a little bit high ,it depends on wether the bike is quite new or older, i am basing it on me looking at a fairly new ducati hyperstrada , there are 2 with 5000m that are going for £1000 less than ones with 1200 (ish) miles and one with 10k that is £1000 less than the 5k ones.
    The seller is able to go onto the dvla website and check up on previous mot mileages (as are you ) if you have a v5 or old mot cert number.

    If i know about this ,and i am not in the selling game ,then a dealer should definately be aware of it.
     
  19. Stumoores

    Stumoores New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    13
    True KB, I'm not after anything really. Just wanted to get some perspective from the forum
     
  20. thefirebloke

    thefirebloke Elite Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    1,911
    Likes Received:
    1,559
    I know of a guy in my area who runs a business under the description "Mileage Correction Services" he even pays tax on this service. His main customers are legit garage owners so I would never 100% trust the mileage of any bike/car that didn't have mot's to back it up. Service stamps are unreliable as I myself once had my book stamped when I missed a service!
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page