Brembo MC or B4 Caliper upgrade first?

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  1. Slick

    Slick Elite Member

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    Had the same dilemma as also bought a pair of ASVs.
    Had the following options
    buy an OEM Brembo MC from a Ducati etc and then an ASV for that MC - but could not be sure of the piston OD
    Get a fixed ratio 19mm Brembo/ Acossatto etc
    Get a variable ratio 19mm MC eg Brembo RCS/ Acossatto PRS etc

    Couldn't decide whether 20/18 ratio was more suited so bought the RCS and will put up with the mismatch of levers - OCD will get the better of me though!
     
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  2. exfire

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    Yeah I notice mine every time I look at them, I try not to look but then I do and it annoys me. Maybe later next year, but have other things to buy for the bike first.
     
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  3. bambo838

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    I have got a brembo RCS19 MC together with braided lines, RR8 monoblocks, Galfer racing wavy discs and OEM pads fitted to my RR6 fireblade.
    the feel on the brake lever after changong MC has significantly improved and now only need one finger to apply full pressure. I'm experiencing do serious vibrations from Galfer discs so would be looking to change them for brembos next season. decided to use OEM pads as recommended by some forum users and I'm pretty happy with how they perform. my try brembo SC pads next year for comparison.
    Can anybody tell me what is the difference between brembo serie oro and hpk rotors?

    I would defo recommend upgrading the MC first, not the calipers.
     
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  4. Dave V

    Dave V Elite Member

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    I'd personally go:

    pads

    Lines/fluid

    Mc

    Calipers

    Try SBS pads mate, Firebloke recommended them to me. Have dual carbon and sintered versions.

    Sintered on the 929 have transformed the breaking.
     
  5. wedgiewolves#223

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    Agreed as above also performance friction pads are cracking in the wet also
     
  6. Jamiestrada

    Jamiestrada JamieMultiTraitor

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    Make it simple Arthur :) if I'm getting M4 callipers which M/C do I need :)
     
  7. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    19mm :)


    With the current Blades you can just go out and buy any 19mm master and it will be fine, I can tell you that's not always the case for all bikes some early Blades, if you did that with say an R1 or a 1199 you'd have a surprise. Guess my point was only that there is some math behind the mayhem not just a case of manufactures making crap masters ;) or picking any old piston size from the store.

    Perhaps I am as guilty as some others on the www for confusing people, must remember to keep shush...lol
     
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  8. Jamiestrada

    Jamiestrada JamieMultiTraitor

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    So the Brembo 19rcs master cylinder will work with both standard and m4 callipers. :)
     
  9. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Yes, and the perfect ratio for M4's :)
     
  10. Jamiestrada

    Jamiestrada JamieMultiTraitor

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    Excellent job cheers :) just to add amazing how easy it is to fit HEL brake lines supplied by you ;) [​IMG]

    Will get the 19rcs next then the M4s :)
     
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  11. arthurbikemad

    arthurbikemad A very helpful Gent

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    Look great :) and point the right direction ;)
     
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  12. Jamiestrada

    Jamiestrada JamieMultiTraitor

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    Best bit is at the M/C I didn't need to use pliers to twist the fittings into line !!!!! They lined up perfectly !!!! :)
     
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  13. Gilesy

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    Spoke to Larry Web of PDQ yesterday (he has just serviced my Ohlin Shock) and asked him the same question as the start of this thread. He agree's that MC first, M4's second. I about choked in my cuppa when he said he sells the M4's for £6XX + VAT = £8XX! (can't remember the smaller number he said). I've seen these on Ebay from various Italian suppliers for ~£480 delivered.. and of course no customs tax. How come UK suppliers are so much more expensive? Mind made up though, going to order the MC today..
     
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    I thought that the HPK and M4 calipers were 2 different callipers? i suspect that going with the picture on that link these are actually the M4's.. good price and saves trying to speak Italian if there is a problem :)
     
  16. ColinBR

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    2 different calipers mate. You get the M4 and then the HPK M4's
     
  17. t0m541

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    So whats the difference ??
    Looking at photos they look identical ..:confused:
     
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    Gilesy Elite Member

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    HPK Caliper
    Radial mount two piece, 2 pad Racing and High Performance Caliper. Designed for use with discs of a maximum thickness of 5.5mm in 300mm, 310mm or 320mm diameter. CNC machined from solid. Dark Gold hard anodised finish with Red Brembo branding. 4 pot aluminium pistons with racing seals and road dust seals. Quick release pad pin. For use with stainless steel wide track discs. These calipers are sold in sets and come with brake pads.

    M4 Forged Radial Monobloc
    Radial mount one piece forged monobloc caliper used on the Ducati, KTM and other modern European Superbikes. Probably, the best production caliper in the world. Red Brembo branding, 4 x 34mm pistons and designed fur use with normal wide track discs with a maximum 5.5mm thickness. These calipers are sold in sets and come with brake pads.
     
  19. graemewalker

    graemewalker Elite Member

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    still can use the clutch lever asv ,might as well do all at once brembo m/c calipers and hell b lines ,that way only have to bleed once master cylinders are second to none
     
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  20. ColinBR

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    I think the HPK's and the HPK M4's are different mate

    HPK (High Performance Kit)
     
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