How do you think Honda can design a head of one bike for 3,4, or 5 different championships? The tt bike is totally different again from any race series bike and heavier. I thought you and Wozza might of known something about racing mate? Maybe stick to cleaning them mate
I do I just thought it strange they would take power out....my mate Wilf runs Moto Rapido always on the Dyno trying to get as much as possiable out of the engine of course in. Realiable way and of course what the frame can handle.....I wasn't being thick....anyway may see you in the BSB paddock next year where I will be cleaning away...
Actually, 'they' didnt take any power away from the stock SP2 engine - the engine was simply not modified to full SuperBike spec with Chris Mayhew head work etc. they were only slightly up from SuperStock spec. The stock SP2 is the weakest 1000cc engine in any of the latest gen chassis. It has great potential, but out of the box they are not very powerful. 190bhp at the crank is at least 10hp off the nearest rival. The Superbike spec bike engine spent a short time at SuperStock level of modification as the grip was discovered, then the engine was again returned to SuperBike spec...
Still nearly 90% on here not up for one....however that may change once the tests reviews come out ....unfortunately after sitting on one at the NEC to small for me 5ft 8 on a good day....will have a test ride may feel differently in full battle gear on...
I will stick with my 17 blade as ive sorted out a problem imo with a £350 ecu flash , dyno which has totally changed the bike and I love it and Honda wasn't interesting in dealing with it , so to pay £24, 000 for a brand new redesigned blade isn't for me , don't get me wrong I love the look and everything about it BUT I don't do much tracking riding more on the road , and what will Honda say when or if any problems may arise ?
I agree with you @keithg1748 about sticking with a 2017 blade, but not for the same reasons. I'll go and search for your thread on your ecu flash & dyno experience, but a quick question - how does this impact the different riding modes (mode 1, mode 2, mode 3, etc.?)? As for the 2020 blade - really don't think I like the aero / wings or the rather odd Akra can that looks worse that the standard on my '17 blade in my opinion. I'm sure the Akra will sound better and when the bike hasn't been riding in the wet here in the UK, the laser etched Akrapovic on the side will appeal, but for me the price coupled to the boy-racer styling bits is a turn off. I wonder if there'll be a fairing kit that can remove this silly bits of aero for every day use (and then stick them back on for track days).
it doesnt matter which mode it is in and it runs better in all modes. but to be honest I mostly run in mode 2 .
I'd take it easy in the wet with those settings though. I find mode 2 "ok" in the wet, but sometimes go for a user setting of P2, T5, EB3. Mode 3 for me is useless on my commute as the heavy engine braking appears to drink lots more fuel.. So the ecu flash impacts all modes? I'm just wondering how it impacts the power (P) levels - does it remap each power setting? (Sorry, not trying to corrupt this thread).
I think so I will have to try and speak to the guy who did it but he will be away testing with peter hickman I would have thought as he works for smiths , but he did tell me that he removed all the euro 4 crap which is really restricted to the bike , all I know is that the bike is less juddery and snatchy on the throttle and is a lot smoother on acceleration, which was a big problem for me anyway .
I was told in M mode rather the automatic the suspension it stays fixed in A mode it is consistently adjusting itself I ride in A1 hot days so TC slightly on as a safety net when really on it then Mode 2 when low temps or when I first go out ....never used mode 3 may do when I have new tyres fitted shortly.....TC off on track makes sense..
Do you have full system or just a slip on ? Did you get better bhp / lbft gains Just curious has to how much is lurking in that engine ? I take it he got into the ABS to cancel out the none movement of the front wheel on a dyno, can he adjust it ? So I can gather by reading what I read on here the ABS is Honda software and can be only be altered by the so called Honda Race Package which is not available.... or I've completely read it wrong. My SP2 has a full Akrapovic dealer said to fit the racing bike race module which was designed with the help of akrapovic apparently self learning .., only got 40+ miles on it but it is not smooth as I hoped for but they did say it would take 150 miles to iron out!! My 1299 was mapped vastly improved, £5k of warranty done after mapped dealer had bike in bits never noticed the lambda sensor were not there. Guy who mapped it didn't want to do the SP2, ECU's are easier to fry apparently .. Could you give me his details may be a option to venture into when the warranty is out if the rapid module doesn't do has it says on the tin.
Top of the range s1000rr and still get ££4,500 change . No brainer that’s if u were buying a brand new sports bike
Nigel the beemer has been around over 10 years now , looks and performance wise do u think the blade is better looking or better performer ? Put them side by side and compare then think the Honda is worth £4,500 extra . We ain’t talking a few hundred difference are we
2020 Ducati V4S is having it's first press rides today. Expect to see reviews landing on youtube throughout the week. Has to be considered before pulling the trigger on a £23k RRR-SP.
Tend to agree with @Stevie_d regards the BMW aswell. Think you'd be mad to buy the new blade without considering the BMW. I'm sure most of you will already know the BMW dealer experience is fantastic, they'll throw the keys at you and tell you to come back before closing time. If it was me spending £20k+ it would be a toss up between R1M and V4S.
S1000rr £15,290 S1000rr sport £16,700 S1000rr m sport £19,315 what’s prices of other 1 litre sports bikes , blades , r1, zx10, v4s ?
That’s fair comment if you like the Honda over bmw , it’s your money and your choice . Personally I like the beemer , and Honda requires even more money to sort the fuelling out once you’ve bought it and changed the pipe . & £1000 As well but agree it’s a nice looking machine but then £25,500 with pipe and fuelling sorted
