Abs or non abs that is the question

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by paulbusdriver, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. Kentblade

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    Agree entirely with Dobles, thats why mine's jet washed them washed in cold water when the salts down, but the fecker is still rusting, its just cost cutting shite Jap design.......just see the conversation in Hamamatsu at the designers meeting
    'ahhh soooo the big noses ride their superbikes in the winter with salt on the roads? they are so dumb, how did they win the war!!'

    Poor little guys, they will never understand Westerners.
     
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  2. kpone

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    Don't let us lose sight of the fact that it's not the salt that causes corrosion, it's the water. The salt is just a catalyst that increases the water's conductivity and speeds up the migration of electrons, reducing iron into an oxide.

    So yes, use cold water but make sure it's all gone when you've finished. With the relative humidity the way it is at the moment your P&J isn't going to air dry even in the back of the garage. It's just going to fester. Remember that too, all of you who's bike has to share its home with the tumble dryer.
     
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    Well they took a while to cotton on that ultra long range bombers, an inbred racial tendency to xenophobia and access to large resources of fissionable materials was a creditable negotiating tool, certainly.
     
  4. samd1985

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    I have the 2012 model with C-ABS and have had no issues with it. Up to nearly 10k miles now too. On one or two occasions I have felt the lever come back a tad further than normal after light feathering of the brakes but NEVER to the extent of lever to bar, so haven't ever lost braking power.

    I love the ABS system; in fact that was what really sold the bike to me as I had in my head that I wanted an ABS equipped bike.

    If I'm feathering brakes I'll tend to use the rear anyhow, although on occasion I use the front lightly.

    The system has got me out of trouble in the wet a couple of times i would say and instead of a locked front and potential crash i've come to a nice, controlled stop! Big thumbs up from me


    Sam
     
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  5. Slick

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    Snap,

    Exactly the same problem. My ABS light started flashing the other week. Took it into Chiswick Honda pronto. After having for a whole day the technician diagnosed sticking pads to the pistons. My overcleaning had washed away the grease between the piston and pads and with the effect of the road salt caused little corrosion. This caused intermittent sticking enough for the sensors to pick up and cause the ABS to go into failsafe.

    They sorted me out and reserviced my callipers and the issue seems to be resolved. :)
     
  6. thezipsteruk

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    sooner this shitty weather is gone and some good old english summer has rained away all the road salt the better!

    Id just like to add that since Dobles diagnosed my sticking callipers and sorted them and since ive ben washing her when i can with a freezin cold jet wash Ive not had any problems.
    I have also invested in some FS365 and that seems to be helping keep the braking tubes of the ABS more resilent to the elements.
    and on a different note the BT023s I had fitted are wearing evenly and feeling great in this shite weather...over 1500 miles on em in all this crappy weather too.

    thanks to everyone for their input/help Im now very happy with my bike again.:)
    just got to save up for a PCV now to sort out the snatchy power and ill be happier still :) :)
     
  7. Slick

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    I use FS365 and ACF50 by the bucket load, but I also use far too much Castrol Degreaser

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    In future I will be keeping this away from the callipers - lesson learnt!
     
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  8. travellingkiwi

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    Since I got the ABS, I don't cover the back brake any more while filtering... It's C-ABS after all...

    FWIW I locked up the front wheel several time son my 600RR. Mostly on the M4 elevated section. It's a bit of a rush when there's a truck right next to you at the time... That's why I got C-ABS... In the wet it's slippy time without. In the dry it's stoppie... Oops...

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    Good call Ken that's why I use the leaf blower after a wash it blows all the water out of the calliper s and from under the engine then I start it up and get t.hat sucker hot .
     
  10. sinewave

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    Fire the Leaf Blower up!

    LMFAO! :p

    Feckin good idea that! :D







    ...............................shame I aint gota Leaf Blower! :(
     
  11. phantom

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    Locking on the wet stuff an stoppies in the dry, you must be grab happy lol
     
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    ABS Christmas tree light effect on the clock this morning, find just flicking the ignition switch off and back on resets it, pads out again this weekend then, and sensor crud clean off, spring must be close................surely
     
  13. el-nicko

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    ABS sold me on my 'blade. Got to say; standing on the back brake and coming to a controlled halt without a rear wheel 'lock-up' is a real novelty that I just had to try a couple of times. I will be extending the manufacturers waranty tho.;)
     
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    How much does an extension of the 2 year warranty cost does anyone know?

    Is it a rolling yearly thing or is there a time/mileage limit to it?
     
  15. Kentblade

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    As far as extended warranty goes, its a personal thing that only the owner can decide on the value, from a personal point of view, 12 years, 4 Blades, over 250K miles and chain tensioner and a couple of recalls is all I have suffered within the warranty period, outside of that from memory a clogged rad - external crud build up requiring a new rad, multiple sets of discs, jammed exhaust powervalve after being off the bike for a few months, couple of broken ignition keys, and the usual service items, just my own experience, probably been on the lucky side, and my bikes get mullered 12 months a year.
     
  16. el-nicko

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    Is it a rolling yearly thing or is there a time/mileage limit to it? I Don't know 'bout that but I intend to extend the manufacturers waranty when the one on my ABS bike runs out.

    125-600cc= 12 months-£267. 24 months-£417

    Over 600cc= 12 months-£320. 24 months-£495.

    All inc. VAT @ 20%
     
  17. Slick

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    I got 12 extended warrany on my ABS.

    Glad I did as it's paid for itself already, ie had head-races replace, callipers re-serviced and due to have a full ABS bleed.
     
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  18. Slick

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    I have to add the ABS has done 18k about 6k in my ownership. There have been niggles but always sorted quickly. I put the Blade through some harsh conditions including a track day so a few are expected.
     
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  19. el-nicko

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    I'm not sure about this but I think you can extend it indefinitely. After-all, it's simply a type of insurance cover for 'mechanical' failure as opposed to damage/third party claims. I should imagine you have to re-new without a 'break' though so as to avoid claims from peeps who's engine (by coincidence) exploded just as soon as they signed up. ;)
     
  20. Kentblade

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    As I thought, everything in the caliper was crudded up, and only apart 6 weeks ago, this last month has been grim with salt and road crud. Cleaned everything up with a scotch pad and cleaner, red rubber grease on the pistons, and a new set of pads, as the wear lines were fading on the last set, cleaned the abs sensors, noticeable difference on the commute today, actually managed to stop when I wanted to. :)
     

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