ABS vs non-ABS

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by sauluk, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. martinowen

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    Wet?? Why would you do that??? ;)
     
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  2. andrew blake

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    well lets pretend nothing is goes wrong with the equipment and it works perfectly then what surely Combined ABS has you beat hands down
     
  3. andrew blake

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    sometimes in rains in the UK lol lol sometimes when your out riding .......although i avoid rain like ebola
     
  4. andrew blake

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  5. Jimbo Vills

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    You are joking me??? How about learning the skill of riding a bike, reading the road and being confident in your own abilities on road or track to know the tens of thousands of miles you've ridden count for something and your human eye, working in harmony with that thing called a brain and right hand can stop the bike without crashing!


    It's a great sytem when it works (many havent had any issues) and might save you 1 in 10,000 times.... But if you think you need it to stop a sports bike safely, you shouldn't have bought one in the first place IMO
     
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  6. andrew blake

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    come on Jimbo ABS is the future.... in fact an EU directive is aiming for all bikes after 2016 to be a legal requirement i wonder why
     
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  7. andrew blake

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    Kent i know your watching hope your well spoke to my local dealership they said ABS as long as your not a courier in traffic all day ..... bloody cheek should be able to use for what i like
     
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    Because they are control freaks who think they need to save ourselves from ourselves.... Crack on dude, you've obviously seen the light, but find it a shame you think you need an ecu to ride a bike properly.

    It weighs more, costs more, more to maintain and I don't think there is any evidence to prove it works better....

    And it CAN go wrong.

    For that reason... I'm out.
     
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  9. ShinySideUp

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    The EU also want to ban motorcycles to help with safety as figures show people get more injuries on bikes compared to car accidents!

    Does it make it a good idea???
     
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  10. andrew blake

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    to be honest i am a bit shit to average on a bike lol but one thing i am .......... truthful.........i never mean to offend only add some colour to an avearge friday night love to all
     
  11. Andy

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    Yeah, but I'm over exaggerating the stamp part .... You wouldn't really put that much pressure on the pedal in normal situations, more like a emergency stop but in that situation you would be grabbing a load of front brake anyway.

    To be honest I was completely oblivious to the abs issues when I bought mine, it wasn't until I joined here a read the big sticky post about abs that I learned about it's troubles. I just thought it was going to be more like how a cars basic abs system works not that fact it's like a brake assist module with a abs feature
     
  12. BoroRich

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    Can't imagine wanting ABS but I've never ridden one with it so what would I know.
     
  13. andrew blake

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    you hardly notice it working but mine comes on at least once every ride.......
     
  14. RRoss

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    True,a blade is more enjoyable in the dry:D
    Unfortunately we can get 4 seasons in one day up here especially with the altitude changes on some roads so it's nice to know that ABS is there if the worst happens:eek:
    Fingers crossed never had any issues with mine and never needed it yet. Don't think people should be relying on it on a daily basis tho,learn to ride first.
     
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    So many personal feelings on here, it just sums up the issues with the Blades ABS system. It if worked like other manufacturers systems, then we would never be having these debates.

    There are issues with it, some bikes suffer, some don't.

    It is a flawed design, there are failures, it is poorly packaged, it was installed on the bike without much thought to the ongoing maintenance of the system.

    The owners have been used as guinea pigs.

    The manufacturers support when issues arrive has been inconsistent and in many cases non existent.

    There appears to be lots of owners who do not see issues and are happy, there are lots of owners that are unhappy, the main difference being that if you put total faith in the system and it fails it can potentially be a threat to your personal safety. Ironically this is the totally opposite to the ethos of the design.

    The total faith comment is born out by comments on this forum where a minority of riders believe the only way they can ride a Superbike fast and ride it safely is with the back up of ABS......if you believe that, then start taking the train....you will live longer.

    The bottom line in this debate is really simple, if you were like me, bought an ABS Blade without a second thought and without any research, then it comes as a bit of a shock when your bike fails to stop on a irregular basis.

    If you are a potential owner of an ABS Blade, and you have done your research, read the forums, digested the info and make your personal choice to buy an ABS Blade, I really hope you get a machine you love, and works flawlessly, because when they do they are great bikes.

    If you end up with one of the dogs that has issues......then please keep it to yourself and do not come on here moaning about it and wanting help, you will have gone into it with your eyes open, paid your money and taken your chance.
     
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  16. Dif950

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    I was also oblivious to any issues with ABS when I was looking to buy a fireblade 3 years ago.
    One came up on Autotrader 100 miles from me with all the spec I wanted but over £1000 more than I originally wanted to spend.
    I forgot about it but every week that went past searching, the price of this one kept dropping till eventually I called the owner and we thrashed out a price which was a steal.
    The first thing he pointed out as I started it up to go for a test ride was that the ABS light would switch off as I started riding.
    He obviously couldn't shift it as everyone who knew about ABS problems wouldn't touch it with a barge pole and being 15 months old, this new system had those who knew worried.
    I wouldn't have bought it had I known, and certainly didn't buy it on the basis that it had ABS and would save me from a crash.
     
  17. ColinBR

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    The ABS light stays on till you do ride above I think 6mph. They all do that.
     
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  18. Dave V

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    Over the last four years I've done circa 50k on a RRA and 929, both without abs. I'd be lying to say I've never locked up the front, as have on a handful of occasions in the wet on gravel but a quick release of the brake has thankfully prevented an off.

    I'm not going to get into the emotion of what's better, as have it on a monster that actually seems to have no issues, I haven’t seen or noticed the abs once activate on this. Would I buy a Blade with it, not a chance due to the experience of those on here.

    But how do you manage to get the system to activate on every ride? Sure there's not something wrong with it or are you trying deliberately in the wet? In the dry I reckon I'd get the bike flipped over before it lost grip
     
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  19. Dave V

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    It does that on the Monster too
     
  20. Dif950

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    Yes, but the fact he mentioned it without me saying anything.
    Thinking back, he was reassuring me nothing was wrong with it.
     

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