Blipping on downshifts.....

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by dessp2, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. navvy10

    navvy10 Well-Known Member

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    I've tried blipping and not bothering on track and didn't notice much difference. On road it sounds cool and makes changes smooth for comfort otherwise standard slipper clutch does a good job :)
     
  2. Mad Matt

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    ^^^ Same here, sounds cool for the road but don't bother on track as i feel no difference....
     
  3. scooby

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    thats cause your not going fast enough :)
     
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  4. navvy10

    navvy10 Well-Known Member

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    Fast enough for fast group :D
     
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  5. Mad Matt

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    Won't argue there but i will promise you this, i will be doing sub 1:50's next year at Oulton;)
     
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  6. scooby

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    ok cool hope you do,but it's not as easy as you think ;)
     
  7. ozzer76

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    Yeah I try to blip although admittedly I haven't quite mastered it yet but I do try. I'm still getting used to the blade having ridden 600's for a while. Getting there slowly though.
     
  8. benp1

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    I do it for the smoothness. Shows more mechanical sympathy and seems more settled, means you use the brakes for braking, and the engine for going, particularly as this engine has so little engine braking. And a big plus is it saves my clutch
     
  9. Jimbo Vills

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    6th gear to 4th (sometimes 5th to 3rd if I got it wrong) at about 165/160mph to 95/90mph into paddock hill yesterday, breaking point after the lights as much as I could dare, and your breaking deep into the turn fully cranked over, wasn't blipping as trying hard to keep the line and not run wide out of the hill...

    Standard slipper, never once did it get unsettled or couldn't cope, no blipping....
     
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  10. Jimbo Vills

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    the little engine braking is the slipper working.... so all the time your blipping your not letting the slipper clutch work and therefore not using any engine to brake at all? in my simple head....

    I have to blip my r1 as no slipper but you can then settle the bike and use the engine more, which is a really good way to assist braking - totally diff techniques, both enjoyable...

    either way.... I've never wrecked a clutch and i'm really good at breaking things lol
     
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  11. BoroRich

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    I blip but only when I'm not trying to brake at the same time. Haven't quite mastered that one yet.

    I also blip in the car, have done for years. It makes for much smoother downshifting and I haven't had to replace a clutch for as long as I can remember. It makes sense to me. You're matching the speed of the engine side of the clutch to the speed of the gearbox side of the clutch so that when you mesh the two together one's not suddenly having to spin the other up to speed.

    I guess it's a bit like if you were in a car and had to hand something to someone in another car. You wouldn't have any qualms about doing it if the other car was travelling at the same speed as you but you'd be wary of doing it if you were doing 90 and they were doing 20.
     
  12. sinewave

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    Quite a good analogy that Rich!


    U been watching C Beebies again?? ;)
     
  13. BoroRich

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    I'm just good at describing things that's all. I wish I could think how to apply this to a job. The only thing I can think is working in IT support but balls to that [​IMG]
     
  14. restone

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    On my Buell big V twin with massive engine breaking you have to blip and feather the clutch or the back end steps.
    On my blade I find the engine breaking is pretty good on track providing the revs are above 8-9k but find it best to blip quickly down the box (bit of rear brake) thne brake like billy bollox front and let go of the throttle and chuck it in, the engine breaking then takes place of the rear and settles the bike to the apex
     
  15. benp1

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    My engine braking thing was more about the fact that with the engine connected to the wheels, i.e. clutch no engageed, when you back off the throttle the revs drop and wheel slows down

    On a V twin, and a lesser but similar extent on a triple (my only proper reference points), the engine braking means you can back off the throttle and the bike slows quite quickly. I've found this to happen much less on the blade

    My understanding of the slipper was that if you drop a gear and dump the clutch (when the engine would suddenly increase in revs) the slipper will stop the rear wheel from skipping - protecting the engine and the maintain some element of traction. But in normal riding the slipper won't really get involved.

    My point around engine braking is the IL4 engine has much less than a V twin or a triple. Get up to the redline and back off and then compare the difference on different bikes. I find I use the brakes much more on the blade when going for a spirited ride, although the bike is rapid so clearly I might need to use them more. But on a twisty on my old triple I could use the brakes less and feel like I was covering ground pretty quickly

    Not sure if that all makes sense - I guess my point was blipping shows more mechanical sympathy, feels smoother and less jerky than just changing gear and dumping the clutch. Brakes for slow and engine for go
     
  16. scooby

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    you still get the engine braking even when you blip.
     
  17. Dif950

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    Not something I ever really did with the standard exhaust as it sounded like a fart in a sleeping bag.
    Ive just fitted Jamie Reps Acrapovic exhaust and now I'm blipping at every opportunity!
    Front brake, downshifts and revving is common practice now. :D
     
  18. rich918

    rich918 New Member

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    ive allways blips my bike its something I learnt when I first started biking many moons ago
     
  19. HRCTrev09

    HRCTrev09 Well-Known Member

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    Blipping is the thing to do dudes :D I blip feckin everything the bike, the car, the bus, the wife :D
    The Sound is a lovely by product but smoothness is the goal :D
     
  20. Souleh

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    Always a little blip or the back end steps out even with dunlop slicks
     

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