Sounds like there is a few people talking shit out there an should not be working on bikes ! I agree with artherbikemad .
Does make you wonder though hay, after all some bloke sat on 20 grands worth of dyno why would he not know the very basics...... I guess it's the old saying, just coz you own a chisel don't make you a carpenter.....lol
Yeah pretty much Arthur Donno what kinda response i'll get from the tosser when I drop by next week but I'm fizzing! £190 he took for fittin the PCV and mapping the bike! I feel lied too and ripped off!
Gutted for you mate as a dealer for DynoJet UK I feel it's important to have a full understanding of the product and it's intended use also a full understanding of the bike in question that it's to be fitted to, I am only a small time tech but like to ask questions to those in the know if I don't understand something tech is always changing and you need to ask questions from time to time to keep on the ball.....however the SAS/PAIR system is VERY old tech and goes back many years to around the old chips style Kawasakis used in California many moon ago thus techs should find it easy to understand and after all it's very simple.. I guess that's why I posted in the first place as I just like to explaine simple things to those that ask, I do believe that if someone can't fully explaine something then best just turn around and walk away, however as I said why would any of us not listen to someone sat on 20k tuning tool! It's a case of BS baffles brains I think.! My advise to you would be speak to the owner of the company you used and point him to the thread here and/or say that you have talked to DynoJet and they have put your man into question??
Have we got a thread with who to use that do it properly? I know on the car forums they say not to use that certain performance centre cos they don't tune it properly etc.Nothing worse than spending money then paying someone else to do it properly.
This is the gaff i use! My mate is 4 stroke devlopment and ive had 3 bikes done with em now ie dyno proper fooking gaff! http://www.dynojet.co.uk/
This is the gaff i use! My mate is 4 stroke devlopment and ive had 3 bikes done with em now ie dyno proper fooking gaff! http://www.dynojet.co.uk/
Controversial post seeing as it's only my 3rd on this forum, but here goes... For the 08 onwards with race cans; ditch fuelling modules altogether and try the stock ECU - no custom maps or anything! It's a self adjusting ECU and can cope with quite a lot of changes, but for the biggies like race exhausts/filters you'll need to do a reset, as follows: disconnect the battery and leave for a couple of minutes, reconnect, start the bike and let it idle for 15 minutes; no revving, just let it idle on it's own for 15 mins. Now ride it and see how it feels. I have a 2011 with a Yoshi can: it was lumpy before I reset the ECU, now it runs very nicely indeed. It worked, I didn't think it would having trawled forums and found nothing about it, but it was top tip from a racer friend, and turned out to be a good'un, and cost me nothing. Binned_it
I've had the battery out for over 4 weeks during the winter when I fitted the new exhaust. Bike is still running lumpy. So I can't say that the ECU will sort it out. Best getting a PC and tuning it.
Your SORT of right Binned it, when a new bike is first run up after PDI you have to leave it 5 (not 15) minutes and it sets it's idle parameters, NOTHING else, it's pointless thinking that will get the bike running correctly with an aftermarket can, it wont. PS I am a certified Honda Institute trained Spannermonkey and had many courses on the blade (and every other mainstream Honda bike) so I do know what I'm talking about, aswell as being a part time race Spannermonkey. With that I can 150% assure you that NO ONE who races a blade seriously will run it without a fuelling module.
Quite right, as said in this thread the stock O2 sensor is only narrow and deals with very basic corrections in the closed loop zone, hence why if left connected with a pcv it will keep trimming that zone and conflict with the fuel table being used by the pcv. The wideband sensors used by autotune and dynos are far more complex for sampling exhaust gasses to get accurate afr readings, in other words the ECU is in no way self mapping.
Hi Guys, I just like to thank you for all your helpfull comments and just a wee update on what has happened! I got a full refund from the knobjocky that dyno'd my bike and I am taking a trip to Preston to get it mapped at Dynojet! Oh I am currently running downloaded maps for Leo Vince from the site! Baffle in and out! And they are epic so can't wait to get custom ones done
You will love it mate after the map! you got same as me and the differance was instant Ive a thread in here somewhere not that old DYNO DAY with a few pics
